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Last Troll Alert on Her/It

Cross posting this in Janitor and Troll's Corner per your directions

TexP.

SALLYV609 - 12:15am Sep 18, 2007 PST (# 1094 of 1125)
to Lindabeam

"...You really don't have much respect for yourself do you?... I honestly think you have some deep issues that need the help of a competent psychiatric professional...I don't want you to hate me but I really think you need to talk with someone who can help you with your mental issues. Love, Sally"

"ELIAKZN - 10:24am Aug 19, 2007 PST (# 359 of 359)
LEMURSKY/SAPIRIT/VICKI/SHIRI IS A WHORE!!!

LEMURSKY/SAPIRIT/VICKI/SHIRI IS A WHORE!!! JUST SEE THIS AD I FOUND: http://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/ers/400404237.html YOU ARE A FUCKING SLOPPY SLUT. DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SUCK A DICK. YOU FUCKED YOUR OWN KID AND THEN USED YOUR DOG TO FUCK YOUR KID. YOU BRUTALLY RAPED YOUR KID TO REVENGE ON YOUR EX HUSBAND. YOU ARE A CHEAT. YOU DATE ONLY FOR FOOD AND MONEY. YOU DONT EVEN CARE FOR HUMAN BONDAGE AND LOVE. NOW FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. YOU ARE SELFISH, SEXUALLY & EMOTIONALLY COLD. YOU DO DRUGS.YOU HAVE HERPES. YOU HAVE LEGAL PROBLEM. AVOID HER. DON'T BELIEVE HER WORDS. SHE IS A SHAME TO WOMANHOOD. "

(This is one of the posts from that troll. When you see something like this you have to post at Janitor about it or contact Thirdage),

I badly need advice from any of you ladies who've had similar experiences (esp. the ones who have Mr. Right by now). My Rules-relationship broke up after 2 years, as I finally realised that despite all the talk and much ado no proposal was coming. I haven't called him or any such thing, I've been very good about trying to move on and I still want to do TR, but I really need some encouragement. I keep telling myself this was all part of the process and of "weeding out the rubbish", but I still feel so disheartend. This was my first relatioship after reading TR, but it seemed like everything would be fine now with TR and it turned sour anyway...
Have any of you dated "Mr. Wrong" too after reading TR before you met Mr. Right?

or am I just jaded?

Haaaaa! Brilliant!

Guess what? When we were dating my husband asked me if I'd ever heard of The Rules. I said 'No, never' with copies of The Rules I and II lying under the settee just a few feet away!

It turned out he'd read TR when they first came out because they'd made such a splash (and being a Cambridge double First grad he reads anything he can get his hands on) and he thought they were superb! He totally agreed with them. He thought it was a healthy way to date and wished more women were like that - and that's why he took pains to ask me out by Wednesday each week!

I still never admitted I was doing them though.

Yes, thank goodness for Rules husbands and fiances!

Your wedding must be getting close now. Are you excited?

Haaa, good post Miss A!

My husband says he's planning a trip away for my birthday.

Obviously The Rules aren't working, so I was going to do much the same as you. I think telling him how he mustn't leave you and you wanted his babies from the first moment you met is an excellent plan. In fact, if I chase him enough and give up my yoga class tonight in order to cook him a three-course meal, maybe he'll even buy me a great present as well as the trip, what do you think?

Isn't it hilarious that the troll accused Miss A of being an expert in headgames?

When Miss A is actually a hospital doctor and therefore has far better things to think about like, erm, people being very ill.
Odd how he seems to think us all stupid.

I'm so sorry that stumbling upon a group of intelligent women who have multiple degrees, decent careers and excellent marital relationships has so upset you, troll.

Maybe because a women like that would never look at you?

And now I'm really going to yank his chain: or maybe, it's the fact that women hold more power than men would have us believe, and that we are women who realise this basic truth.

Now that's really gotta upset a woman-hating man like our gnarled little troll!

Go on troll, stamp your feet a little more!

Myself and others here will carry on doing TR and having wonderful relationships with our amazing husbands and fiances. And what are you giong to do about that?

I wonder what the Troll thinks you're in denial of (on Profiles). In denial because you don't adhere to HER philosophies (which she has never clearly stated)?

I think she can go start her own cult.

he's talking about deceit and manipulation... talk about the pot calling the kettle black - jeesh!

The troll is talking about headgames...hehehehe.

You will see especially why I smell male.

Smells like one who nexted himself.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be that the significant other got tired of being treated like crap and made a few changes.

The Rules are about tapping our own power and using it. Hence the angry backlash from the troll. He had to give some up.

Does anyone smell a silly lil man around these here parts? I think someone is playing with us.

Not that we wouldn't welcome a RESPECTFUL, honest male poster. That would add a great vibe to the mix.

I love TexasPisces too- she was very helpful to me not so long ago- are you out there girl?

Lx

Sweet story.

Some people mistakenly take the rules out context and only see manipulation.

What they fail to see is that women can use these tools to develop healthy boundaries, give men space, not overtalk men, and keep their mystery, which men love.

Many women just give and give and get stepped on and have no guidelines on how to change their behaviors except for the soon-to-be-outdated psychobabble that tells them to share all their feelings every second. Not only do men not want to hear a woman's feelings every second, but chances are the females around her don't either.

That's what the therapist is for, duh.

Giving men space, not letting them walk over you, not nagging, not belittling ourselves by chasing, and having healthy amounts of self-respect are what most of the people on this support board believe the book is about. We have no desire to hurt anyone.

Also, the great thing about this particular board is the way that we all accept many other philosophies and get into gentle discussions. TR are not the bible, the quaran, the torah, etc. Just a very helpful book with some great suggestions/advice/guidelines. I, personally, am very happy to have found the book and this forum.

Yeah, the Rules don't work - in fact they're crap. You should hear my story.

I applied the Rules 100 per cent to Mr.Right. He paid for all our lovely dates. But when tried to insist on me hopping to the other side of London for our second date, involving many Tube changes late at night, I simply cancelled the date.

A bit later, he received a dream job offer in the States. I said 'Good for you! Need any help packing?'

In the following five months after he left, I didn't call him once. I couldn't even have told you what his phone number was.

My reward? To be taken to the Caribbean at Christmas and to receive an amazing marriage proposal complete with beautiful ring, and we are now extremely happily married. My husband constantly tells me how lucky he is and how much he loves me. He appreciates how much space he has and that he was not pushed into anything.

The Rules? Oh yeah, they're a load of crap.

Love,

A Happily Married Rules Girl and her Husband xxx

There might be some truth to what you are saying but the difference here is that CXTIKA is humbly learning and is open to support and changing her ways and that is awesome.

Our issue isn't with CXTIKA, it is with you. A rule here in ThirdAge is to treat other posters with respect. You are not doing this. Name-calling is not permitted under any circumstances at all.

It doesn't matter what excuse you give, or what the other poster said first, etc... name-calling is simply NOT permitted here.

I would love to answer your questions and discuss my marriage with you (as you asked on another thread) but I will not do that until we have a foundation of respect and you have come to a place where you are willing to treat other posters respectfully.

S~

Yikes!

If one of your patients told you they enjoy being slapped in the face would you do it?

You wrote:
Laural

You need to tell this to the lady who called herself a slut...

Why is it you feel that it is wrong for CXTIKA to use this kind of language but you don't hold the same guideline for yourself?

Just curious,

S~

I never said it was wrong for anyone to use that kind of language but if someone refers to themselves as a slut for example then that is how they have presented themselves to others. So if someone else refers to them as a slut then why should they or anyone else be upset about it? Here's an example: It would be just like Person A asking Person B to hit them and when Person B does indeed hit Person A is it any wonder or surprise that Person A got hit? NO - Person A asked for that treatment. The whole point is that if you don't want to be treated like a slut then don't act like one and then complain when you're treated like one, and furthermore don't refer to yourself as something if you don't want others to refer to you in the same manner that you referred to yourself in.

b Laural -
You're right in that CXTIKA should not be insulting herself. There is only negative power in referring to yourself as as "slut." Laural, these boards are for SUPPORT. It is our role to gently lift back up and be SUPPORTIVE to people who are in crisis. Reiterating one's insults right back at them is not supportive behavior nor is it "tough love". You are free to disagree with me on this and I respect your opinion. But the fact still stands that name-calling is not permitted here.

S~

Laural143

Its a pity as I was looking forward to having a non rules perpective on the board. I really enjoyed reading your post to me about communicating to prospective dates about waiting to have sex. It was food for thought.

The things is I cant correspond with you anymore as IMO you are being rude to other posters. As I said before its a pity as it's great to have different perpectives here.

Anyway I wish you the best.

Cheers

LPJ

Don't know if you caught it or not but Suzie Q asked you to stop posting to her. I'm not usually a fan of this but in this case I think you should respect her wishes as you have been disrespectful.

And again, you must first post a Profile in the
i Profiles
thread before replying to posts in
i SOS.

S~

Hi Laural,

I read all of CXTIKA's posts. Namecalling is not permitted here. Even in the case that someone in a crisis may have referred to herself as a "slut", we may not use that as a free ticket to refer to her as a "slut" when posting back to her. I understand your post, but you called her a slut many times in a very mean way and that kind of approach is not permitted here.

I encourage you to continue to reply back to any posts you feel are interesting. But remember, abuse is not permitted here.

I would love to respond to your questions you asked about talking to therapists and how one of the authors got a divorce, etc. But before delving in to that, I want to be sure that you understand that abuse and name-calling is not permitted here. Do you understand that?

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