He Says, She Says: Sex on the First Date

Posted in dating advice, sex
By Tom Blake

Drinks, dinner, conversation...sex? Single women wonder why they can't meet a man for a nice evening out without him hinting that he'd like to hop into the sack -- on the first night! While some men believe they're being sincerely honest by telling a woman she's attractive and he'd like to sleep with her, these aren't the men looking for a committed relationship.

Here, we take a look at what women and men have to say about a man's desire to get too much too soon:

  • Times haven't changed much: "It's no different than it was in the '50s, except the boys then just wanted to pet," says Giselle Blum, 61, a four-year divorcee from New Orleans, La. "With a smile, move slightly away and say, 'I'm not into that.' Explain briefly what you are looking for -- friendship, possible romance. The men who want to go to bed fast aren't the ones you want."
  • Alcohol should be avoided: "It may relax the individual, but it 'inhibits the inhibitors' and makes sexual aggression more likely to occur," says Mary Martin of San Clemente, Calif.
  • Sorry guys, but dinner means just dinner: "Some men think the price of dinner includes a show," says Patricia Partin of Fairbanks, Alaska."That's why all of my dates are in a restaurant or very public place for at least the first three or more."
  • Take it from a cowgirl: Patricia Starck of Indio, Calif., who refers to herself as "just a cowgirl," says, "I take it as a compliment to my sexual presence, tip my cowboy hat, and say, 'Thank you. I'll let you know when I'm ready.' If they won't accept that, I get rough."
  • Throw him a curveball: "Ask to meet his mother first. If he has no interest in introducing you to the significant people in his life, he'll probably run after getting what he wants," suggests Gina Woodruff, 37, of Long Beach, Calif. "Asking to meet his mom may make him run sooner, but then you can laugh about it instead of crying later."

What men think:

  • Is this guy angling? Bruce Boyocks, a Southern California beach lover, says, "Ladies, believe it or not, most guys will not go to bed with just anyone. Be thankful when a guy expresses interest. It could be a compliment." Bruce makes a point, but notice he says "could." Sounds like he's negotiating to me!
  • Sex as a sport? Tom Blosser, 46, of Aliso Viejo, Calif., who is now in a happy and monogamous relationship, says, "When I was unattached, I viewed sex as a sport. And there were women who viewed it the same way." Tom's girlfriend, Artis, agrees with him, and says she knows women who still view sex that way.
  • Cart before the horse: Barry Atkins, 46, says, "After the sex, if we enjoyed each other just being together, then I'll want to get to know her with the intention of building a long-term relationship." Most women would say that Barry's statement is "putting-the-cart-before-the-horse" thinking.

Here's my advice of what to do if a man wants to get you to bed prematurely:

  • Ask him about his relationship goals. If he has no interest in having a relationship, write him off. It means he's only interested in sex.
  • Tell him, "I'm an affectionate, warm and passionate woman. If we become a couple, I'll enjoy sharing those things with you." Some men are willing to wait, but don't want a cold fish.
  • He's putting both of you at risk. He doesn't know whom you've been with, and you don't know whom he's been with. What if somebody has a disease? It's not worth the risk.

To avoid meeting men who are only looking for sex, stay out of cocktail lounges and don't "meet for a drink." A coffee date or lunch is better. Meeting someone through your church or while doing volunteer work may also be a safe bet.

Remember that sex on the first date has no meaning, will leave you feeling empty, and is too dangerous. Avoid it.

Tom Blake is the author of Middle Aged and Dating Again (Tooter's, 1997).

Donna P's picture
While I have been approached by nearly everyone on a first date, I would never have sex on the first, second date. For me, at least (would never speak for others) the only way to enjoy sex is to know someone. Way more than dinner or just one evening would show me about another person. True intimacy starts with getting to know someone, and I want them to also know and respect me also before hopping in the sack. If they will do it with you... how many others? Protection does not adequately protect feelings and all disease. I want someone that respects me as well as themselves!! I know, terribly old fashioned, but just my feelings and wants... desires.
GMGoBlue75's picture
I am going to have to say that it's not always the man that pushes for sex on the first date. Now, I am not bragging, but when I was dating as I was going through my divorce, the women I went out with were more aggressive than I could remember. I am not what you would call real good looking, and I didn't have a lot of money or a whole lot of status. I was just a regular guy. But more than half the women I went out with asked me to come back to their place or to go back to mine with me. I do have to say that these were real dates, where we did have dinner and a glass of wine or two, but not a lot to drink. Some I had met before at a lunch or coffee, to make sure we were "right" for each other, but I am not counting those as dates. And several times it was a long distance date; I had to drive 60+ miles to get there, so maybe they were just trying to be nice by inviting me back to their place. But it was strange. A couple who really pushed to have sex, and I have to say we did, and then didn't want me to spend the night. Though we talked later and most often had a 2nd or 3rd date. A couple got upset when I asked questions about whether we had any birth control protection, and asked about their "past" behavior. All were coming out of monogamous marriages, said they hadn't had sex with anybody for a while, and either had their tubes tied, or a hysterectomy so pregnancy wasn't an option. But really, I have to say, I didn't say no, but all the pressure was from the other side.
mythoughtsnow's picture
ADVICE PLEASE< ESPECIALLY MEN Agghhh, Im SOOO frustrated w/this subject. I finally met this man (in his 40's) i met on a dating site and had great dinner and back 2his place to find myself convinced that i should spend d nite since was late n i live very far! all true, but I didnt want to have sex on the first date. NOT b/c Im not mature enough (36) to handle it. I dont think that makes me a slut. Im actually professional and classy. When, where n how I decide to have sex w/a man does not define the kind off woman I am. I know who I am and what I want. So that nite we discussed he was to keep hands to himself but that didnt happen. Then early that morning we had sex. I did not enjoy it at all and I was not my sensual, agressive, sexual self b/c the whole time I was thinking "This is going to ruin my possibilities to see him again". Why? B/C men have shown me that in the past and so didnt want to be in that situation again. Although I dont think that sex should be the determining factor to continue seeing someone on serious level for a possible long term relationship. So, he has not shown much interest in seeing me again, it's now the 4th nite after the fact. I really like him. Im a straightforward person, very honest, and just want the same back. I want to know what he is thinking and Im wondering if its perhaps b/c the sex was bad (in my opinion was bad, but I told him "I dont want a one-night stand" and "i dont want to do this"). I know men want "the chace", or maybe thinks i was easy, or God know what he is thinking, Q: Can I just ask him to be "sincere" and tell me what's on his mind? Tell him that I didnt think he was mature enough to have sex n then move on to "getting to know you" stage. What do I do now. I can't just do nothing. Cant.....
xve298's picture
This is the most unrealistic ending. Sex has meaning it's SEX. For me to be maneuvered by the promise of sex is more despicable because it is dishonest. I never feel empty and would be mush more inclined to want more time together.
jimydancer's picture
If a man and woman are still active and attracted sex is on the mind of " both " the rest is a matter of the rules of engagement via gender perception..If a man does not openly speak to his sexual interest or if he does is usually realative to the vibe given. Two people sexually attracted are as much a lie as one that it is and one that isnt and neither saying so.
touch57's picture
Why plan ahead, if you meet and enjoy each other go for it. We aren't 20, anymore and there is nothing wrong with enjoying a physical relationship to end the evening. That's the problem today, middle aged adults are planning for tomorrow. Wake up, not everyone is going to have a tomorrow. Enjoy life to the fullest, while still using common sense. Protection works for all age groups and picking your date up at a halfway house might be a cause to take a pause.