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How Does Your Garden Grow? III, Hosted by Oiseau

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How Does Your Garden Grow? III, Hosted by Oiseau

Now hosted by Oiseau, in memory of Irish and Nettie who were so appreciated for their contribution to this subject. They are sadly missed. I felt the need to continue their efforts, a place where we can meet and discuss, research for each other problems that arise with and from our efforts, exchange funny or horror stories :-)
Post pictures, all the while imagining Irish and Nettie helping us along in spirit.

Now let's hear how your garden grows!

By oiseau
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Some plant from OZ - Blooms in Spring. xoxoxox

By oiseau
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It's Spring in OZ;

so the garden is the target for our attention. Replenishing nutrients, transplanting some plants to another spot, separating root systems to maintain size, the whole enchillada and when new plants are purchased I make sure they are natives.

The flora here is so diverse so that we find flowers almost all year round, either from trees or bushes. However Spring brings forth a riot of new growth and hay fever LOL. xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

By oiseau
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Create a healing garden;

Sensory gardens use plants and other design elements to provide experiences to awaken all five senses giving the gardener new ways to enjoy the garden.

Garden elements in sensory gardens involve seating, lighting, water features, paths, and whimsy. But the bottom line is this is your own special place so think of what appeals to you.

The key when designing is to remember that simplicity is essential in designing a soothing healing garden because the point of having one is to deal with stress, and its important that the space not have too much going on to add any additional stress.

You also want to design for interaction between people and plants. Here are some easy tips to help you do this:

* Choose plants that engage all of the senses. Use a variety of textures, scents, colors, and plants that make pleasant sounds as wind rustles their leaves. Don’t forget, providing seasonal varieties will let you connect with the cycle of nature.
* Plants with interesting visual texture add to the sensory garden experience. Excellent additions for sensory gardens include smooth, rough, ruffled, fuzzy, or lacey-textured plants.
* Color provides a visual stimulus while adding focal points, accents, and definition to a garden. Warm colors such as red, orange, and yellow enliven the emotions and promote activity. Cool colors, such as blue, purple, and white tend to be soothing, and promote tranquility.
* Scent is one of our most powerful senses so think about adding fragrant plants alongside garden seating, along the edges of paths and outside windows. Creeping herbs like thyme, planted right in pathways will release their aroma when they are walked on. Incense and scented oils in garden torches can add additional scents.
* Don’t forget the sense of touch. Choose plants that are durable enough to withstand frequent brushing or handling. Think of things like soft flowers, fuzzy leaves, springy moss, rough bark, succulent leaves, and prickly seed pods. For both fragrance and texture include scented geraniums, basils, and peppermints.
* One of the most overlooked senses in the garden is sound but it broadens the garden experience. Many plants make sounds with a small amount of wind or jostling: bamboo stems knock together, grasses rustle, palm fronds sway. Seed pods of some plants make natural sound shakers. Have grasses and bamboos outside of windows so when it rains you hear the sound of the movement.
* Sounds of animals enliven the senses so incorporate elements that will attract bird, hummingbirds and other forms of wildlife including berry-producing shrubs, birdbaths and bird feeders. But, avoid plants that attract large numbers of bees or undesirable insects. Accessories for bringing soothing sounds to the garden include waterfalls, wind chimes and fountains.
* In a sensory garden, the taste buds can tingle from edible fruits, vegetables, herbs, and spices. Include plants that can produce a large number of edible parts over time such as mint leaves, strawberries, or edible flowers.
* Make sure there is shade available or you won’t use your garden. You can do this using sunscreens, trellises, fences, walls, and even certain plants. These also provide shelter from the wind.
* Provide quiet places to sit and contemplate by adding comfortable seating with back support and arm rests.
* Think about adding solar lights for nighttime garden visits. They eliminate the hassle of having to get electricity out there, and now come in a wide variety from accent lighting to path lighting and umbrella lights.
* Provide a water feature because water is a soothing agent. Still water can provide a setting for meditation while the sound and view of moving water is restorative. You can use a small fountain or create a pond with koi or goldfish.
* Do bugs bug you? Get a screened gazebo or a screened patio cover to provide a shaded, bug-free alternative.

Judi Gerber is a University of California Master Gardener with a certificate in Horticultural Therapy.

By oiseau
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Has anyone seen snow drops yet peeping up?

blue bird, rose

By oiseau
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Hello folks - we're back! :-)

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By annwine
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Anyone else having problems

with Japanese Beetles? The soapy water helped but got a "recipe" for a better option. Mix 1 T each of baking soda, cooking oil and dish soap in a gal of water. Pour into a spray bottle and attack the beetles. Supposed to do it once a week until the infestation is gone.

By annwine
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Jenny....

I think soapy water is a good option to try. I've used it on a lot of plants, especially in the fall when I bring the houseplants inside, and it seems to do the job. Even tried it last summer when I had an infestation of Japanese beetles and it worked on them too.

I've always heard marigolds are good to plant alongside veggies to curb insect attacks.

Aphids...or not?

Visited a local garden Open Day recently, they had a large vegetable plot. Like many other gardens they are going 'eco friendly'....so much planting of 'companion plants' to counteract pests.

The main plantings seemed to be pot marigolds with carrots to counteract root fly, and what I call french marigolds (tagentes) to target aphids on the other vegetables. However, with broad beans - which are a hit with black fly - they had planted nasturtiums as apparantly black fly love them even more.

Oh dear ! I just put nasturtiams ( can't spell properly ) in all the grey stone planters at the front of the house. It faces south west and gets the sun at the hottest part of the day, so needs sun loving plants...also thought the yellows and oranges would look good against the grey.

Fingers crossed....or perhaps I should look out for ladybirds!

Anyone know if you can spray nasturtiums ? I was thinking soapy water.

Jenny

By Oiseau
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I too love Nasturtiums

all those glorious colours and it's hard to kill them LOL

I looked up on a garden site and they seem to attract the bugs so that other plants stay safe, a sort of trade off. Not a bad thing I think.

Enjoy the display. xoxoxoxoxox

By annwine
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Wonderful roses and hydrangeas, English and GinnyAnn.

I only have one rose bush that was given to me by a neighbor when she moved out of the townhouse apartments we used to live in. I transplanted it there and moved it to where we live now. It's a "rambler" I believe but is the most beautiful shade of coral. I found out, when I planted some offshoots once, that it reverted back to a smaller red rose. It also has a lovely aroma.

By GinnyAnn
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These have been moved up off

These have been moved up off the deck itself onto to a large planter since I took this picture.

Hydrangeas......

Ginny, I bought my first hydrangea- a lacecap flowered one - a few weeks back, but hadn't got a large enough planter.So I left it on the edge of the patio, still not quite hardened off.

Alas,within days there was a concerted slug attack and the bottom leaves were left as skeletons,the larger petals on all the blooms had also gone and I thought I had lost the plant.

A bit of tlc and a few slug pellets saved things, and now I have a slightly ragged, but thriving plant.

I had intended it to go at the back of my garage which faces North, and to use a planter rather than put it directly into the ground, so that the roots don't go down into the foundations.

How big a planter did you use....and what kind of soil?

It will have to stay there for some time, as I want it to give some cover
over the rear garage window.....as well as having some good seed heads to dry and use in winter arrangements.

By GinnyAnn
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My plant is still in its

My plant is still in its original pot. Plan on putting it in a large pot. Not sure where it will go yet. We are redoing 2 of the front planting areas.

By Oiseau
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Your roses sound lovely ladies.

Different but equally special. xoxox

Just coming up roses here.....

have been securing a lovely, scented, large flowered yellow climber to a wall...much balancing on a step ladder and trying not to hammer my thumb.

On the other hand, last winter I cut out a very old white rambler....sure that I had seen the last of it. Behold, it is rejuvenated.. and covered in cream buds which are lovely, but the buds open out into what looks like a limp discarded tissue, definitely a rose for buttonholes only !

DG your patio roses sound wonderful,...scent often seems stronger in a smaller area and with a smaller habit you can place more plants in the same space as well , which adds to the effect.

I have most of my roses in an area at the side of my house, between the wall and a high hedge, the scent is overwhelming in the evening....particularly early on in the season when the honeysuckle is also out.

I have noticed when visiting gardens in country houses, that the rose gardens are often enclosed by hedges...perhaps to intensify the scents ??

Also I never plant Hybrid Teas as I feel that what they make up in flower they tend to lose in scent. All my roses are old fashioned roses, shrub roses, climbers or ramblers....oh yes, and one patio rose 'Ruby Wedding' ten of which were bought for us on that anniversary....and which have a strong scent too. They also seem to thrive whatever the conditions.....aptly named !!

By DurangoGirl
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English

My roses are on the side of my house also on one of my patio areas. There is an arbor you walk thru on brick flooring...there is my Jacuzzi with a outside fireplace. And then surrounding the whole area is planters full of roses...climbers on the side of the house. And honeysuckles on the opposite ends climbing all over the rod iron fencing. From there you walk thru to an enclosed patio area with potted plants and hanging plants. And a sitting area with table and chairs. This patio area is surrounded in a glass wall and overlooks over the town and homes below.

So I would say my roses are enclosed somewhat too. In the early morning hours ...or late nite hours...I so enjoy the solitude,quiet and fragrance.

I love your countryside gardens...and have tried to make mine as close to an English one as possible in my drier climate.

By DurangoGirl
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Ann

I know how it is when we move on and buy something new to learn...(with me it's new uptodate PSP programs)

once you get the hang of your new camera, I'm sure you'll love it too :)

I have so enjoyed your photo's at the Seniorocity site! Your such a talented photographer!!

By annwine
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Beautiful, GinnyAnn

I have a lot of blossoms and buds too...just no longer have my favorite camera and don't like my new one.

By Oiseau
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Too bad Ann - so what do you now have?

By annwine
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It's a Canon PowerShot, Oiseau.

It's probably a great camera for someone who is really into all the fancy-schmantsy stuff this camera can do but I really just want a simple camera, like my old Mavica, that takes wonderful photos with no work and studying of how to work it. I should have gotten another Sony!

By Oiseau
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:-) it's the learning that's hard eh? xoxox

By GinnyAnn
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Took this picture this afternoon

By Oiseau
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Lovely, Ginny Ann

By DurangoGirl
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Irene I love reading all your thoughtful and educational posts!

Speaking of roses...my side yard around the spa is filled with the scent of my miniature roses...oh so wonderful!!! :)

By Oiseau
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This clicking is $%#@*&@#)&^ :-)

I read somewhere that bees are finding it more difficult to find nectar because the scent of roses is being lost through hybridization. :-(

Enjoy the perfume doll xoxoxox

By Oiseau
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When and how to garden :-)

Gardening by Starlight
Gene DeFazzio

The first farmers were probably the first practical astrologers. Their crops seemed to respond to the signs in the heavens and this became a convenient method of ensuring good harvests and provided a functional approach to husbandry.

Modern agriculture echoes many of these ancient principles. Certain seasons brought changing conditions which seemed to either help or hinder the growth of crops. Each season presented different alignments in the constellations and these patterns would evolve into horticultural astrology as it is often practiced today. The following is a brief outline of the zodiacal roots of gardening by the stars and signs of the zodiac.

Pruning

It was believed that in order to insure against infestations when pruning vine crops, trees and woody growths the following formula applied. The Moon must be full in the constellations of Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, or Sagittarius. When pruning is done during this period the plants will not suffer from parasites nor disease.

Grafting

Ancient gardeners were believers in never grafting plants or trees when the moon was waning or not visible. Decreasing moonlight or the total absence of moonlight was considered crucial in the successful propagation and grafting of all types of vegetation.

Harvesting

Crops and other plants that were to be preserved for future use were always cut while the light of the moon was decreasing. This was believed to aid in the length of time that produce could be stored without spoiling. This was especially true of timber which was to be used in construction. If wood is cut at the end of the winter and during the decline in moonlight it will be hard and durable.

Plant Regeneration

When cutting or gleaning crops and plants that produce more than one yield the moon should be waxing and in its first quarter. Also, the moon must be high in the sky at this time and in conjunction with the planets Venus or Jupiter. When this equation is followed yields will increase and new growth will be rapid.

Sowing

Sow or plant your garden when the moon is in Taurus, Virgo or Scorpio and is near Saturn. This is the time of maximum benefit for seeds and transplants which, if planted now, will grow with strength and vitality. Also, when the moon is in Libra or Capricorn it is a good time to weed your garden and trim trees and shrubs.

When to Avoid Planting

Never plant any type of vegetation when Saturn is in one of the fixed signs of the zodiac. This will cause poor crops and limited harvests. In ancient times this stellar alignment was associated with famine and death.

The Stellar Gardener

Planting and husbandry by astrological signs should be examined by any gardener as an insightful way to round out ones knowledge of horticulture. The ancients studied the natural order of things. It worked for them and it will still work for us if we care to heed these echoes from the past.

By Oiseau
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Smelling the Roses Spotlight:

What if you want to stop and smell the roses, but there's nothing there to smell? These days, we are less likely to be lured to a garden by the aroma wafting through the air. University of Virginia researchers recently reported that the scent molecules of flowers travel about 20 percent of the distance that they once did; when they leave the flower, they bond with pollutants in the air, destroying the flowers' fragrance. Pollinators such as bees are also affected. The insects have to search longer to pick up the scent of the flowers; this is one of the reasons that bee populations are dropping. The bees' primary source of food is nectar from flowers. Now, the bees find it more difficult to find the flowers and they are unable to feed themselves.

By Oiseau
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IMPORTANT NEWS

Dan Steckenberg

Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:25:00 -0500 Subject: Registration System Changes

Hi,

My apologies for being out of touch for a few weeks. There simply wasn't any big news to report for a while, but I do have some news for you now.

Because the new site will be based on a completely different programming language than the current site, we need to update our registration system. Now, I know that all of you have usernames that you use in the Discussion area, and which you may have used for Chat and Homepages as well. We want to make sure that you'll still be able to use those usernames even as we overhaul the back end of what we call the user management system.

If you go to http://www2.thirdage.com/user, you'll be able to reserve your current username for the new system. Simply type in your current information in the username/e-mail and password fields and follow the on-screen instructions. When it tells you that you're logged in, you should be all set for the new system. When we move over to the new site, this username and password will get you into all the new member areas, including, of course, the discussions area. Unfortunately, if you currently have multiple usernames for your e-mail address, you will have to choose just one username per e-mail address.

In the meantime, you should still be able to post on the current discussion boards with no problems. Let me know if you experience any difficulties.

Dan

By Oiseau
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Look what I found in the files?

How To Post Pictures To Forums
A tutorial by Margaret Austin (Irish)

Pictures which are to be posted to a TA forum page MUST be on the web. For most people, that will be on a TA Home Page, but pictures on home pages elsewhere can also be posted directly from that site.

We recommend that you copy and print these instructions.

IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A TA HOME PAGE, you need to have the picture on your home page site in order to post it to a forum page:

* 1. Scan your picture or use one from your digital camera, put it in either JPEG format (primarily for photographs), or GIF89a (primarily for clip art and line drawings) of a reasonable size for posting. Standard dpi for the web is 72 x 72 dpi.

JPEG is a compressed format. Even a physically large picture will seldom have a file size of more than 25-50 kbs, and usually much less.

Simple GIFs will probably be less than 20 kbs, though large or animated ones can run much higher.

Remember that the higher the kbs, the longer the load time on a page. Few viewers will wait to see a very slow-loading page.

Keep the JPG or GIF picture in a folder on your computer where you can find it easily. (Don't have a scanner? Ask a friend or have Kinko's scan and put it on a disc for you. Many places will also do this now when film is developed.)

* 2. Go into your TA home page Site Manager (log in takes you there) and click "Upload" and then "Browse" to upload the picture to the Site Manager. You do not need to actually put it on your Home Page; having it on the Site Manager is enough. The uploaded picture's name will show in the list on the Site Manager page.

* 3. Select the picture in the Index and click the grey "Display" button at the bottom of the list. This will show you how the picture will look on a TA page. Check for color and physical size. Will it fit on a TA page without spreading the margins? The TA message width is 458 pixels; keep the picture width less than this, please. If necessary to correct either the color or physical size, delete the picture, revise it, and upload the revised picture to the Site Manager Index. You'll feel better about it , and so will others.

* 4. Copy the name of the picture as it appears on the Site Manager list. Copy the URL of your Home Page from the link just above the list or from your Home Page.

* 5. Use this code: < img src="(Your Home Page URL. no parentheses)/ (name of picture. no parentheses)"> Do not leave any spaces except between "img" and "src," but DO leave a space there between "img" and "src." Do not omit any part of the code.
The finished code will look similar to this, but without the space needed after the first "<" so that the code will appear instead of the picture:

< img src="http://home.thirdage.com/Gardening/irish/mbr.20mo.JPG">

This is the code that you will put in the message box to post the picture. On a TA page it will open automatically.

* 6. Type your message in the forum page message box, double space, then add the code - or vice versa, depending on whether you want the picture below or above the message. You may want to go to the practice area in Tech to test your first code. You'll do fine!

IF YOU HAVE A WEB PAGE ELSEWHERE, begin with #4 above and follow the instructions. Use the URL for the page that has the picture and use the picture name used there.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A HOME PAGE ON THE WEB, then you will have to create one in order to post a picture in a forum. The picture must be on the web before it can be posted.

Follow the TA Home Pages instructions to create a home page. Then follow the instructions above to post a picture to a forum page. Here are a few additional TA home page hints:

* "index.html" is the name listed for your main (first) home page. Strange but true.

* If you choose the simpliest format (like the old Personal Profile page), or already have that format without a picture, and then upload a picture, it will automatically place the picture in the #2 section of the page as mapped in "Edit."

* If you add a picture to your page or change the picture on the page, it may not seem to appear until you click reload/refresh to get rid of the old cache page.

* If you delete the posted picture from your Site Manager or change its name, it will disappear from the forum page where posted. Be careful.

By annwine
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I think that's wonderful, Oiseau,

that the company in NC would make such a nice gesture. Am I to assume they plant a new tree for each wooden casket? Awesome memorial.

Your snow looks like our snow, GinnyAnn, but you have a beautiful view from your deck and home. It's no wonder you love it there. BTW...I notice your dog isn't snow-covered. LOL

By Oiseau
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I quite agree about living memorials

I was quite surprised that the company from whom I bought my late husband's casket, Bates, in NC actually sent me a certificate and the name of the tree they planted to recompense for the wood used to make the box.

Nice touch I thought.

By DurangoGirl
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Yes

it was very thoughtful of them.

By GinnyAnn
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Very nice touch.

Very nice touch.

By GinnyAnn
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From Snowy Cold Ohio

Here is my deck with plant table and umbrella table.

By DurangoGirl
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living memorials would be beautiful and wonderful :)

Oh my you sure do have a bunch of snow! You sure live in a pretty place!

By GinnyAnn
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Ohio in Feb.

Yes we love it here.

This isn't as clear because through the screen in my laundry room.

By DurangoGirl
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WOW GinnyAnn!

Just beautiful!! I'm having a warmup in the hidesert...suppose to be 70 tomorrow...and in Palm Springs where Mother has a doctors appt. tomorrow in the mid 80's

By annwine
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I always remember

my mom's amaryllis being cut back and resting in the garage. When she'd bring it in it bloomed again. Every time! After Mom passed away in '95 my dad kept the tradition going for a number of years. He couldn't keep most of her plants living but the amaryllis survived his brown thumb.

Looks like we have about the same amount of snow here, GinnyAnn. STILL snowing! I've had enough thank you very much!

By Oiseau
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Thanks for telling us about your Dad

To me, there's magic in plants surviving their owners.

How lovely an idea it would be if a tree were planted for each child born, fancy the GREEN planet this would be. xoxoxoxo

By GinnyAnn
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And if we planted memory

And if we planted memory trees, we could keep living memorials.

By Oiseau
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Q&A: Encouraging Rebloom on Amaryllis

Question: How should I take care of my amaryllis after it is done blooming, so I can encourage it to bloom again?

Answer: Amaryllis can be kept alive and be brought back to blossom the following year but this takes a little work. Once the flowers fade, trim away the bloom stalk and allow the foliage to grow. Bright, indirect light is best. Keep the soil slightly moist and fertilize monthly with a liquid fertilizer so the plant grows vigorously. In late summer or early fall, the leaves should begin to turn yellow. The yellowing indicates the amaryllis needs a rest. If they do not begin to yellow on their own, simply withhold water beginning in September and force the plant into dormancy. Once the leaves wither, cut the leaves back to the neck of the bulb and store it, pot and all in a cool (55F), dark place such as a garage or basement for about eight to ten weeks. Do not water during this rest period. Then place the pot in a bright location and water lightly. The bulbs should resprout and bloom again. Repot every 3-4 years in the spring after blooming. Enjoy!

By annwine
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Yeah...they don't make

Yeah...they don't make enough money on those of us who have been here thru thick and thin all these years.

By DurangoGirl
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Well the powers that be

go to a lot of trouble to bury the discussions too. can't have many visiting us when they don't know about it.

By Oiseau
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Exactly;

How often do we 'meet' new people and then never see them again. I think it's because they can't find us again. xoxoxo

By annwine
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It helps to bookmark, but

I know what you mean. I also think back to that period of time when we lost so many due to nothing working right. I didn't even realize discussions were so "buried" since I always go to my bookmarks and haven't even checked out the TA home page.

Speaking of "buried" my gardens are now buried under a LOT of snow! Anyone else get blasted? Probably you, GinnyAnn.

By GinnyAnn
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Hi from 26º Ohio

We sure do have snow. At least 8 or maybe 9 by now inches of the cold wet stuff. Good packing snow. I am gathering it and melting it for my plants.

These have been moved around some but here is what they looked like in January. I have more than these, of course. lol

By GinnyAnn
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The discussions here are

The discussions here are always so lively and informative. Friendly. Why do they have to change it? :(

By Oiseau
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Because there is NOT enough traffic!

By annwine
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That's all we can do...hope for the best.

Such a shame that TA wants to change the most unique and perfect site on the Web and make it into one like all the others.

To be honest I would have been willing to pay an annual fee to keep TA the way it is/was!

By DurangoGirl
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Me too, Ann!

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