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Your Daily Vent III

What's on your mind today? Here's your place to sound off on the issues that are eating at you. So vent away!

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Hey Julia, I see you are

Hey Julia, I see you are back on Current Events and Politics. I hope you stay over there with the rest of the Witches and Devils. You guys don't want TK and me over there, so I'll stay here, but don't think you are welcomed back here.

Fort Hood's 9/11 Islamist

Fort Hood's 9/11

Islamist terror strikes US again

Last Updated: 2:50 PM, November 6, 2009

Posted: 1:36 PM, November 6, 2009

Ralph Peters

On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.
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When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

Ralph Peters’ latest novel is "The War After Armageddon."

By joel23
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This is like 7th grade

This is like 7th grade journalism.

By Ogress
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moslms bad scar me

moslms bad scar me

Ogress, there is good and

Ogress, there is good and bad people in every religion. The ones I blame is the Army, when they were getting warning signs and not investigated his behaviour. He was educated by the U.S. Military and didn't want to go to Iraq, so he took inocent lives.

Pearl is the know it all and thinks she knows everything about everything, so if you need to know anything about every subject, she will tell you. She knows more about the United States and The U.S. Military, than the people that live here. I'm sure she will clue you in about all religions also.

By pearl
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Oh my..   This is

Oh my..

 

This is going well, isn't it?

 

 

P.S. Ogress I don't know

P.S. Ogress I don't know where you are from, but I would like to welcome you here!

By pearl
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Ogress...   Angry

Ogress...

 

Angry people with guns are scary, no matter who or where they are, and whatever their race or religion. 

By pearl
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What about this

What about this then?

 

Had Maj. Nadil Malik Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, his religion and his parents' country of origin wouldn't even have been mentioned.   Wouldn't it be prudent to wait and see what the formal army investigation says about this incident and why it happened...instead of using it as yet another excuse to vilify a whole religion?

 

The only thing I have to say

The only thing I have to say is, It is too bad they didn't kill the S.O.B.

By pearl
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Oh

Oh dear....

 

 

Violence is not the solution.....violence is the problem.

 

Pearl,  re Fort Hood, an

Pearl,  re Fort Hood, an anti-muslim backlash with cries of "terrorist" by the usual suspects was drearily predictable.  Had he been Mexican the outcry would have been similar, from Lou Dobbs for instance. Fortunately not all Americans share the opinions of Ralph Peters, you might check him out on google.

By pearl
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Stan...   I've already

Stan...

 

I've already read in a paper here, a Washington Post report that the man had been subjected to prolonged and persistent racial and religious taunting from some of his colleagues.  So that suggests to me that the terrorism angle has no legs at all.  This event is also another example of the deleterious effects of army training and war service.

And... the relentless quest

And... the relentless quest by some for scapegoats, an enemy, someone to hate and fear, and so on.  When Tim McVeigh blew up the federal building in Oklahoma, no one went on a rampage against white American boys with military backgrounds.  The far right patriot crowd was silent that time because he was one of their own, the very type who are now raging about muslim terrorists.

Ask the Author!

Ask the Author!

By pearl
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Nancy...   Why is this

Nancy...

 

Why is this scary?  It's hardly different to the regular seasonal influenza in that regard.  It's common knowledge that people who die from influenza are most often the elderly or others who already have other medical issues, and there's always some deaths that occur because of that every year.

 

pearl, what are you

pearl, what are you thinking? Just because something is common knowledge doesn't make it any less scary, quite the opposite. It's common knowledge that snakes bite and kill - that's why so many people are scared of them. It's common knowledge that rabbits don't bite and don't kill so no one is scared of them. Oh, wait I get it. Ms. Nancy made the post so you had to make one belittling her. Now I understand.

TK, the part that I thought

TK, the part that I thought was scary was that most people over 65 usually don't get H1N1, but the ones that do usually don't survive. So if one is over 65 they just have to wait and hope they don't get it.

By pearl
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Texas &

Texas & Nancy....

 

 

Whatever you read, the H1N1 Virus is no more dangerous than regular seasonal influenza, and it's only more contagious because it's a new strain. 

Whatever might be suggested or claimed in that article, MOST PEOPLE OVER 65 who get H1N1 DO NOT DIE FROM IT.  Those who die from it are a few people of any age who have serious existing ailments, the same as any other year. 

Reading and believing incorrect information is what makes it scary.

Tk, It doesn't matter what

Tk, It doesn't matter what I post, I will be belttled for it. After all the names they have called me, but they don't call people names, according to them. Everything I have written has been twisted by them. Even when I tried to explain things, they bring up the Bitch thing. Like they haven't been called Bitches before.  LOL

Even Abuela is calling you and I names and trying to say she just wants Peace. What they want is a Mutural Admiration Society. Talk about the weather and the time change. The Political forum is not the place for that. Anyway they went over there to get away from us.  [two people]  LOL

Abuela wrote you a post over on Current Events and politics, in reply to the one you posted here. I told her that you don't read posts over there and if she wants an answer she should post here.I guess she is afraid to come here to post anymore.

P.S. I know they read here,

P.S. I know they read here, because they discuss it over there.

By Ogress
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som u mad at each oter

som u mad at each oter

By joel23
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Indeed, it is only some have

Indeed, it is only some have different views of mankind's responsibilities.

Well joel, just what are

Well joel, just what are mankind's responsibilities? You don't seem to take responsibility well personally so how can you know about responsibility on a planetary scale?

By joel23
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See the problem is I was

See the problem is I was brought up to respect everyone, even little peckers  like you, who are  happily always glad to kick someone who circumstances sometimes trips up everyone.  So who is the pathetic joke now?

By joel23
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There you go again, Mr.

There you go again, Mr. Know it all. Point is people had power over my future & were not being responsible & I unsuccessful tried to get help & my escape routes failed.  Does that make be personally responsibility? Perhaps in part, like as much as your cheating wife was. It is none of your business & your presumptions are full of your bs.

As for others, I am very responsible in making sure they do what they have to;  a lot more thoroughly & intelligently than others for me. 

See I waste my time trying to educate fools like you who know next to nothing about me.  Fools like you were the ones who just fooled with me because it make them feel more powerful. But it is the fastest way to hell & the fastest way to screw up people adjusting to new circumstances. So the hell with you & your arrogance. 

I do know at least 3 times about what is going on in the world than you do.

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Indeed, it is only some have

Indeed, it is only some have different views of mankind's responsibilities.

By joel23
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Indeed, it is only some have

Indeed, it is only some have different views of mankind's responsibilities.

By Ogress
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hi i ogress i in many

hi i ogress i in many losana

Yea The Tide is turning!

Watch out Congress!

GOP sweep: Big governor victories in Virginia, NJ (AP)

AP - Independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for Republicans on Tuesday as the GOP wrested political control from Democrats in Virginia and New Jersey, a troubling sign for the president and his party heading into an important midterm election year.

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What it is a game to you?

What it is a game to you? Of course people want someone to blame, so people will fall for even bs.

I noticed that Ms. Nancy.

I noticed that Ms. Nancy. All those broken promises are coming home to roost. People are seeing that the "Change we can believe in" is just as big a lie as any they accuse the other side of making. It's exactly what I expected.

One of my e-mails

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
> If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
>
> If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
> If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for
> everyone.
>
> If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his
> enemy.
> A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
>
> If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
>
> If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as
> independently successful.
> Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government
> protection.
>
> If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
> situation.
> A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
>
> If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
> Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
>
> If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
> A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
> (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)
>
> If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
> it, or may choose a job that provides it.
> A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
>
> If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is
> embarrassed.
> If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor
> and then sues.
>
> If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a
> good laugh.
> A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".

By pearl
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Well, well...   This

Well, well...

 

This leftie read it and didn't get offended by it.  Instead, I just laughed, because it's already been posted here before, and also because it still looks like it's been written by a few smarty pants school children (or someone who listens to too much right wing talk-back radio) 

By joel23
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Right wingers laugh about

Right wingers laugh about their supposed superiority.

We laugh at their supposed superiority.

Abuela, since you replied to

Abuela, since you replied to something I wrote here, over on politics. I brought it here for a peply.

You said, " NAN, THE REASON I HAVE NOT
responded to sStan is that he has never insulted or disparaged me. You apparently read something into his post that I didn't. You are the only poster who continually call other people "bitches" and questions their character.

You also said that your health is good, and that you are not on Xanax. But you obviously need help because the anger, rage, and paranoia you exhibit cannot be good for you physically or mentally. Perhaps anger management would be beneficial.

Yes, the reason I moved over to this forum was to escape your rants as well as those of your sycophant, TK. And, I do not find it to be boring. I prefer peace to war, but, obviously you prefer to sow discord. Isn't that how wars start?"

First of all you won't find peace on a political forum and if you want a peaceful chat forum, then you need to start your own, because you can't tell people who can or can not post on Current Events and Politics.
As far as your other comment, I don't recall ever calling you a bitch, but if I did, you were probably being a bitch at the time, like some of the others here.
If people want a one sided forum and everyone agreeing with them, then they need to go elsewhere, because it isn't going to happen here.

I think your comment about anger management was way off. The only place I get angry is here and I think anyone reading here, would understand why. Anyone besides your little group.

Have a Great Day!

.

Ms Nancy, did you notice

Ms Nancy, did you notice that she talks down on insulting and/or disparaging one, then goes on to insult you and disparage you with her "anylisis" of your mental state? She accuses you of having out of control anger issues and being paranoid? I don't think she knows the meaning of half the words she types.

TK, yes I have! She does

TK, yes I have!

She does her sneak attacks on people and joins the rest to be nasty to me and you.

I don't recall ever being nasty to her. In fact I tried to be nice to here and I appreciated the few posts that she sent me some good information about Soc. Sec. I guess she feels loyal to a certain person and feels like she has to hold up for him. I thought maybe just once she might see how disrespectful he is to Seniors Citizens, but she can't see it. She had to attack me and say horrible things to me to just protect him.

Rhu Barbs does the same thing to you to hold up for joel. I just don't understand it, but I think they do a lot of e-mailing to each other and plan their next attacks. Just like moving over to Current Events and Politics. They didn't want us to know, but joel let the cat out of the bag.  LOL

 

By joel23
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It is all a conspiracy.

It is all a conspiracy.

P.S.  I said,  "If people

P.S.  I said,  "If people want a one sided forum and everyone agreeing with them, then they need to go elsewhere, because it isn't going to happen here."

I ment here on Vent or Currents Events and Politics. Even if TK and I stay away from there, someone else might come on there and disagree with you and call you names.

 

Nobody was addressing Nancy...

...on the other forum until she had the latest tantrum. Interesting how someone cleaned up her mess.

You mustn't think, Nancy, that every message unfavorable to conservative thinking is about you. They aren't.

By Ogress
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perty baby

perty baby

Stan, If you keep knocking

Stan, If you keep knocking old conseratives and right wing etcs. Everyone on here knows exactly who you are talking about. Don't try to play your game with me. I know where you are coming from. You told joel not to reply to me on Politics, because you didn't want TK and Me to come there.

I don't know where you and Abuela think that you own these forums and can tell who can post on Current Events and Politics. I was just giving it back to you and pearl for your smart ass remarks to me about xanax. I should ask you, do you smoke pot or do you drink alcohol?

You think it is okay for you to insult people. especially me and not get it back. I personally think both forums should be shut down. I think you and your group has ran things long enough. I will agree with Terra on that. She wanted both forums shut down when the new TA started.

I didn't have a tantrum, I was replying to one of your posts and when my cap key stuck, I went back to correct it and it went crazy and kept repeating. I didn't even hit submit. It was a TA problem and they have since corrected it and removed all of the repeats, even the one I wrote to RhuBarbs about what Pearl said about people receiving Government money. Evidently Pearl saw it because she replied to it over there.

Now if you and your friends want to continue your closed forum in Politics, then don't mention my name over there and I will do the same here about you., but keep the insults coming, you will get them in return.

 

Ms. Nancy, stan thinks he is

Ms. Nancy, stan thinks he is being sneaky. He'll say something about me or you but instead of coming out with a name he will use the discriptions he has built up of who he thinks we are. That way he can claim he wasn't talking about us but nobody in here is that stupid - well, maybe one is but I don't want to bring him in this conversation - he'll pipe up with his juvenile bs soon enough. It's all just mind games he enjoys.

If you go insisting that any

If you go insisting that any negative comments about conservative ideas or thinking are about you, no matter how wrong that is, I guess you will always have something to be angry about if that's what you need. I do not smoke pot since the 60's.  I do not drink alcohol since 1987.   The Xanax comment came AFTER the tantrum you deny having.  You are not the oldest person here, nor does being elderly make you special.   Once we get into our mid-60's, 70 does not seem old any more.

P.S. I am not on xanax or

P.S. I am not on xanax or any  tranquilizers. Your cute remark and pearls on Politics about that just shows how nasty to seniors the two of you really are. Pearl and joel might be still in their fifties, but you are a senior and you should be ashamed of yourself for talking that way about older people. I think Abuela and Terra are close to my age, but they have never corrected you, joel and Pearl for the remarks you have made. Maybe they just don't want to admit their ages by speaking up to you. I will defend the aging people of this Country to my dying day, I won't make fun of them or think that they should be denied health care or be treated with disrespect. This is what I see more and more in the younger generation and Obamas Administration. Now call me paranoid or crazy, but I really believe we have something to worry about. 

Ms. Nancy, I think you hit

Ms. Nancy, I think you hit it on the head when you mentioned disrespect. That is behind just about all the other problems. The younger people now days aren't taught respect for others. To make it worse they are given awards and praised for doing absolutely nothing. Deep down they know they haven't earned their awards and praises and that keeps them from developing self respect. If one doesn't respect oneself it will be impossible to respect anyone else. I think stan has no self respect because he never did anything to earn it. He has a "problem with authority" and never admits to the possibility that he might have ever been wrong. Maybe that's why he likes to put down people who actually do something with their lives. He's trying to drag others down to his level. There are others in here who also have no self respect and no respect for others too. That's why they "look up" to stan.

Ms. Nancy, I think you hit

Ms. Nancy, I think you hit it on the head when you mentioned disrespect. That is behind just about all the other problems. The younger people now days aren't taught respect for others. To make it worse they are given awards and praised for doing absolutely nothing. Deep down they know they haven't earned their awards and praises and that keeps them from developing self respect. If one doesn't respect oneself it will be impossible to respect anyone else. I think stan has no self respect because he never did anything to earn it. He has a "problem with authority" and never admits to the possibility that he might have ever been wrong. Maybe that's why he likes to put down people who actually do something with their lives. He's trying to drag others down to his level. There are others in here who also have no self respect and no respect for others too. That's why they "look up" to stan.

P.S. With all of the

P.S. With all of the comments about xanax from you and now Abuela, I'm wondering if you all aren't on it.

I don't take tranquilers because I had a bad result from one years ago, after my youngest child was born. I have enough common sence to know when something disagrees with me, I stop taking it. Just like the stop smoking drug.

Now that all of you are preaching to me about what kind of drugs I should take and what a horrible angry person  I am, I would like to ask you about how many medications do you take and are you on xaNAX AND HOW MANY PEOPLKE DO YOU KNOW THAT HAVE COMMITED SUICIDE FROM COMPLICATIONS FROM DRUGS THEY WERE TAKING. iSN'T XANAX ONE OF THOSE DRUGS WHERE THE SUICIDE RATE IS HIGH?

sORRY MY CAP KEY IS STUCK AGAIN AND i'N NOT GOING TO TRY AND EDIT THIS, BECAUSE i DON'T WANT RUN AWAY POSTS AGAIN.

 

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