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Stress & Anxiety, Hosted by Brenda

Brenda recognizes the role both play in her life. "Stress and anxiety aren't necessarily pleasant company," she says, "but sometimes they teach me a lot about myself and about being out of balance or incongruent. In that case I can call them friends. Stress and Anxiety? Yes...been there, done that, and made the silly T-shirt...LOL. But learned a lot and still growing."

--Brenda

By bandradzki
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Love that broken record. :)

Both absorbing oneself in nature and volunteer work can take you out of yourself.

And sometimes we need taking out of ourselves. :)

(((((((((Nettie)))))))

By DurangoGirl
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Interesting article Bren!

When I've been stressed and worrying about a loved one...Shingles pays me a visit. Never did though until I lost my Father and was stressed taking care of my Mother.Guess I internalize too much ;-)

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Hi DG! I think stress...

pops out in our weakest spots. Sometimes my back will "go out". Or my heart palpitations get worse. Or congestion. Or what have you.

I wonder if it depends not just on where your body is weakest but what TYPE of stress you are under? I think some people think so.

And I keep trying to tell myself that it isn't the situation but rather how I feel about it, what I tell myself about it, that causes the stress.

Example: One thing that stresses me out a lot is running late for an appointment or something. My mother really emphasized that I must be home on time and I must call, etc. as I was growing up. If I didn't comply satisfactorily, I got into heaps of trouble. And you wouldn't want to make my mother mad. ;) So I still find myself stressing when I am caught in traffic or somehow messed up and am going to be late. It is one reason why I have a cell phone. So this way, I can at least call. Sometimes it might be a doctor appointment that I am rushing to and I get behind every slow moving driver in the world! Even if I get there on time, it could be an hour or more before I am seen by the doctor. So I ask myself why I even worried and stressed. Just sitting in a doctor's office for any length of time can stress me out. Then he says, "Mrs. Elliott, your blood pressure seems a bit high". Well, duh! LOL

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A good article about anxiety.

This is a good article about anxiety. Gives some good information and good tips.

Click Here

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Hi Brenda! Thanks

Hi Brenda!

Thanks fortheexcellentarticle!

Best,

Ed

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Hi Ed! Yourewelcome. :)

Some Links Are Not Working

Hello,

I m on Lesson 2 and the two top quizzes web addresses are not working. It tell me they cannot be found.

Would like to know where to access the quizzes to finish this lesson.

Susan

By bandradzki
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Susan, Thirdage has many different lessons/courses you can take.

This is just a stress discussion not associated with any lessons. So I don't know what lessons you are having difficulty with.

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"... What happens in the mind of man is always reflected in

How Can Stress Cause So Many Different Diseases?

Many of these effects are due to increased sympathetic nervous system activity and an outpouring of adrenaline, cortisol and other stress-related hormones. Certain types of chronic and more insidious stress due to loneliness, poverty, bereavement, depression and frustration due to discrimination are associated with impaired immune system resistance to viral linked disorders ranging from the common cold and herpes to AIDS and cancer. Stress can have effects on other hormones, brain neurotransmitters, additional small chemical messengers elsewhere, prostaglandins, as well as crucial enzyme systems, and metabolic activities that are still unknown. Research in these areas may help to explain how stress can contribute to depression, anxiety and its diverse effects on the gastrointestinal tract, skin and other organs.

This is from a web page.

To read more about stress there Click Here to go the article

By browere
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Here yesterday...

..gone today! Apparently they are rotating some hosts with links on their front page. This particular forum was the focus yesterday!

Best,

Ed

By bandradzki
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Ah, the limelight lasts only moments. LOL

Shows to go ya, not to get "head" up about those things. LOL

Well, neat that they are rotating. I think it is an excellent idea.

But thanks for letting me know; otherwise I would have missed it. I don't go to the front page that much.

Enjoy your 4th.

Brenda

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Hi Brenda!

You've made the front page at TA!

Best,

Ed

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I did????? Goodness.

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Hi Brenda!

Yup, pix and stories in Oct. I've already sent her a bunch of pix and she has sent us a somewhat recent photo. Seems the family stored their pix , etc. in a box in a closet with a water pipe. When the pipe blew, boom went most of the photos...Yuck! However, I still have lots of pix and plan to send her copies.

We really had a few belly laughs together the other day....time may have dealt her some big time blows, but her memory and sense of humor remain well intact!

She is not currently a computing adult. I "challenged" her, as has all of her family: brother, sisters and grands who are all computer literate to get on a computer like the rest of them. By her own statement to me:"they are always on my back to get with it." I told her to add me to that list! Who knows, may be the miracles of communication along with a push from a long lost "special boy friend" will succeed!

Best,

Ed

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Special boy friend indeed. :)

A lot of us has found a much expanded life since we learned how to surf the Internet. Perhaps yours will be just the "shove" she needs.

BTW, I had a blast at my high school reunion in 1999. The best ever! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoyed mine.

I was single at the time though. LOL!!!

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Hi Brenda!

Good news about my high school girlfriend! She wrote, I replied with kindness and understanding, she called me on my birthday(June 26) and she and my wife and I talked for 25 minutes. She hasn't been depressed(partially due to meds and support) for the last 30 years, has a family support structure that works for her...and it now includes me. When I return with my wife in Oct. for my 46 reunion, we will get together in nearby New York City and share a few more laughs and supportive conversation between "life long friends"! She has a great memory for what took place during our 3 years together too. When asked which Broadway shows we attended together( about 9 of them!), her reply was "Kismet"...where you fed me a stick of "hot Gum"!(Ops, if looks could kill, I shouldn't be on this planet today!) We shared other light moments we had together and "connected" right away! We also agreed to continue writing back and forth, exchange pix, etc. Good for both our mental health status' and with support and understanding from my wife.

Thanks for the info on post partum depression.

Best,

Ed

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That's wonderful Ed!

Even though your friend hasn't had bad depression problems for many years now, knowing more about what she might have gone through helps you understand that and I would think helps the relationship you have with her.

Back when she and I both were having children, post partum depression was not as understood nor treated as it is today. I am glad they have help for that now. :)

I want to hear about how the class reunion and personal reunion went when you return. :)

Hugs,

Brenda

Things aren't realy that bad

Things aren't realy that bad when I took the time to stop and think about what is realy going on in my life. That is something I have forgot to do.
I love my family,Enjoy my job,but forgot to add a little
time for my self. sometimes we get so mixed up in the heat of thing,we forget to take a breath of air. Funny, how something so simple.Can change how you feel.

By bandradzki
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I understand and can certainly relate. :)

I like that slogan: KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid (Or you can use the word Sugar or Sweetie as some have rather than the word Stupid)

Anyway you do it, the message, is not to complicate your life further.

Gratitude and finding something funny to laugh about can relieve stress and help you shift your perspective.

It is hard to be negative when you are laughing or feeling grateful for what you DO have. Appreciation raises your spirits quite a bit.

You might start out taking just a few minutes, say, like 10 or 15 until you can grab more. The kinder you are to yourself and acknowledge that you too deserve some TLC (tender loving care) the better you will be with others.

I still say there is a difference between being selfishness and treating yourself with loving kindness.

A little shift in the way the mind perceives changes the way things appear to be.

Attitude adjustment. ;) (wink)

Have a great day.

Brenda

Stress !!!!!!

Is has to be stress! For 6 months now I have changed my sleeping habits,trouble thinking,mood swings,Crying spells,
Work has been a roller coaster ride.Home hasn't been a hay ride.Money troubles,Going throw the how did I get in this place thing.
Its hit home that I have lived my live so far for other people. Alway tryed to do the right thing Which ment putting myself on hold .`My live is work & home theres no middle.I am to darn worryed what other poeple will think instead of doing whats right for me.

By bandradzki
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Hello Ecleticcurve,

Sounds like stress reaction to me too. Have you been to a doctor to have a physical to make sure there are no other contribution factors? Also you may need a temporary medication to help with some of the symptoms until you can effectively work out your problems and relieve yourself of some of the stress.

Funny how something can go on and on and suddenly, you stand there asking yourself, "How did I get here?" or "How did this happen?"

There is no way of knowing the specifics of your own unique situation but in general feeling like you are always giving, giving, giving will deplete your energy quickly; cause anger and resentment to rise; will start affecting your sleep, your appetite, and your entire well being. Not to mention how you in turn might allow that spill over into the job or you family or friends causing distress there, putting your employment into jeopardy, straining a marriage, or even taking it out on children or spouse or whomever you live with.

Whatever is right for you doesn't have to mean that you cannot find a solution that works for you and the others you care about or who are your responsibility as well. It does not have to be one or the other.

Truly loving yourself is essential if you are going to love others. But loving one's self does not mean hurting others or shirking your responsibilities. Or at least it doesn't have to.

Some people think if you love your self you are being selfish. Being selfish is NOT loving yourself. There is a big difference.

Getting a check up might be a good place to start. If you can avail yourself to counseling (if you can find a good therapist and can afford it) would be helpful. But if you cannot do this, read some good books on stress or anything that you are lead to read that sounds like it addresses some of your issues. Work on making some time for yourself even if it is only a small amount.

Attitude also can be your worst enemy or your best help mate. The more angry you get, the more the problem seems to get worse.
A positive attitude that you can work this out without creating a worse mess would help. :)

General answers or suggestions won't address your unique situation but I hope it may help some.

Please let me know how things go.

Brenda

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If you haven't received an

If you haven't received an invitation yet ... here it is!

It's Party Time

Click on graphic to go to the party pages.

By bandradzki
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Now there's a link that will take you away from your stress.

You ladies did a really great job on the 5-year celebration for ThirdAge!

Well done!

By bandradzki
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Friends can help us bear our stress with their love.

We need each other.

(((((Ed and friend))))

And you too ((((((DG)))))

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Hi Brenda!

I set up a special folder on my Bookmarks and added the various links you provided after accessing them on the net. I haven't read most of them yet...just browsed thru several of them. I'll read them all over the next few weeks in order to better understand what my friend has been going thru.

I don't know if she is internet savvy, but I asked her to call me on my birthday(a week or so) as I don't yet have her phone #. She was a bright, cheerful person when I knew her and I know that her life has been devastated by her disease and attempts to control it. I hope that I can be a support for her as she must be pretty lonely. I know we both care about each other so just maybe we can reconnect as friends and mutual supporters.

Best,

Ed

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Good luck Ed...what a wonderful friend you are!

By bandradzki
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There are probably more web sites and information.

I think you are wise to try to find out all you can. It helps to understand.

Good luck with all of that.

Hope everything works out well.

:)

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Hi Brenda

Many thanks for the links. I'll check them out.

Best,

Ed

By bandradzki
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You are most welcome Ed. :)

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Hi Brenda & Patt!

Post Partum depression- I recently contacted my high school girlfriend whom I haven't been in contact with for over 40+ years. She wrote back to me about her failed marriage due to this life long condition. She was hospitalized for 6 months after the successful birth of her child, got divorced from her hubby who subsequently raised the child to adulthood, remarried and had two children of his own.

In her early 20's, she went to college and graduated with a nursing degree and almost immediately married her current ex. At age 30, she was placed on permanent disability, lived with her parents until they died, with mom dying in 1995. She spent one more month in the hospital due to depression surrounding the ill health of her parents, is currently on meds for life and sees a psychiatrist occassionally. She reports that she has been stable and content for the past 30 years...she is now 64 years old.

My wife and I are returning to the east coast for my high school reunion and plan to see her.

Yes Patt, she lives in New York City while I'm from Weehawken, N.J. We dated each other for 3 years until she cut it off after high school graduation. She still occupys a place in my heart and I would like to be a supporter of her's.
Is there info/discussion forums here at TA or else where specific to this condition? Any help in understanding this life long disability would be appreciated.

Best,

Ed

By bandradzki
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Ed it sounds like to me like she had more than just post partum

There can be a number of causes for depression. But the ones most successfully treated employ the use of: 1) medication if needed which would include trying to get a balance in hormonal levels or taking care of chemical imbalances and treating underlying diseases; 2) psychotherapy; 3) support groups.

How do I know this? I have had training and have worked in these areas before. I used to work on a unit in a hospital that treated such problems and substance abuse as well.

I am sure if you or she put in the word depression or related terms, the Internet would provide through search engines all sorts of information and probably some discussion groups.

One source: http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/PatientResAllCateg/Depression?O...

This source will also have links to discussion groups.

For example this link: http://www2.health-center.com/db/PageReq?SessionI=

By bandradzki
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You go girl! Enjoy. :)

Stay safe.

You are loved. ((((Patt))))

Bren

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Where ya going in South America?

Have a good trip. :)

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Can't swim in this pond.

The pond area flooded before all trees and trash were removed. It is stocked with fish but there are all kinds of other criters and stuff in there as well.

Nice thought, though, to be able to take a plunge - pushed or overwise. ;)

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Sometimes sitting in a place like this de-stresses one.Thought I

miracles

Brenda, I loved your last line

Expect a miracle!

DG, I am so proud of you, choosing love over fear.

This graphic "borrowed" from Tom Panto's website.

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Very Big Grin Here

Yes "Expect a Miracle" is something a very wonderful and good friend of mine named Patt often posts in her messages. :)

Thanks Patt! :)

Brenda

"There can be miracles, if you believe . . . "

I think that song comes from one of the Disney movies and it's still early here in NYC and the memory part of my brain seems to be on HOLD or PAUSE - LOL!

"All matter comes from a primary substance, the luminiferous ether," stated Nikola Tesla. He sensed the universe was "composed of a symphony of alternating currents with the harmonies played on a vast range of octaves," wrote Margaret Cheney. "To explore the whole range of electrical vibration, he sensed, would bring him closer to an understanding of the cosmic symphony." (From Tesla- Man Out of Time.) Tesla understood that the cosmic symphony is resonance. Nothing exists in the Universe that does not have harmonic vibration.

"What would constitute a miracle in your life? . . . A million dollars? . . A great family vacation? . . A new car? . . A physical healing? . . Someone's love? . . a 50-pound weight loss? Whatever it is that you consider your miracle, know that it CAN come true!

"This is not meant to be a religious process, however it does require FAITH. Many people will indeed interpret this to mean faith in God, while to others it will mean faith in some other supreme being or faith in oneself, faith in the universal forces, or in the quantum field.

"Our definition of a miracle is really very simple. We're not talking about flying through the air or turning rocks into gold. We define a miracle as anything that you have ever previously considered impossible for yourself. . . the key word here being "previously", because the first prerequisite for the creation of your miracle is to be able to create the mindset where you now know that it is at least a possibility - because anything that you consider impossible CANNOT be manifested. Or, as Henry Ford said, "If you believe you can or if you believe you can't, you're right!"

"Now, how do you create this miracle?"

Yes, you CAN Expect a Miracle!

Purple Energy Plates

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Enjoyed that article Patt on Obstacles...Thanks!

this gave me an "ahhh" moment:

"It is important to note that there is a distinct different between dreaming and having a positive vision. Dreaming is a 'wish' list whilst a vision is a 'want' list. Unless you are passionate about what you want, you will find that your faith will be sorely tested at the first obstacle you encounter."

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"Ahhhh" moment.

It would appear that which we direct our energies is what materializes rather than a "wish".

Must be some doubt connected to a wish. Maybe doubt is the factor that interfers with materializing these things.

I wonder if the word "want" might also interfere depending upon what that word means to the person using it.

Want can mean it isn't here and I wish it to be.

What I do is FEEL how good it feels to have it as though it were already in material form and feel gratitude for its being there and its having been given.

Wayne Dyer says that "You will see it when you believe it."

I try to remember that.

Neat huh?

Brenda

"You will see it when you believe it."

I love Wayne Dyer, too, Brenda - a very inspirational, motivational speaker.

And then there's "pray as if your prayers have already been answered" and "ask and you shall receive" or "Knock and the door will be opened."

In my own experience, when I do "mind pictures" -- themore detail I can add to the picture the faster it manifests in my life's journey -- when I feel resistance, trying to add details to the picture, I know that it's not for me, not meant to be -- and I move on to something else.

Or, it's not meant to be at this moment in time and I have to come back and work on it later.

Maharishi always taught "no resistance" or "yield."

:-)

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Mind Pictures.

Neat.

And a whole lot faster than trying to download your digital pictures to the Internet. LOL

cinematherapy :-)

". . . in the canyons of my mind"

"I AM SPIRIT"

I am Spirit.

Today I will be handling all of your problems.

Please remember that I do not need your help.

If the devil happens to deliver a situation to you
that you cannot handle, DO NOT attempt to resolve it.

Kindly put it in the SFSTD (something for Spirit to do) box.
It will be addressed in MY time, not yours.

Once the matter is placed into the box, do not hold on to
it or attempt to remove it. Holding on or removal will delay
the resolution of your problem. If it is a situation that you
think you are capable of handling, please, consult me in
prayer to be sure that it is the proper resolution.

Because I do not sleep nor do I slumber, there is no need
for you to lose any sleep.

Rest my child.

If you need to contact me, I
am only a prayer away.

By DurangoGirl
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Stress/health...interesting ideas you all!

Yes since I've let go and let God...my Shingles (from stress) hasn't visited me in a long while YIPPEE!

Also forgiving my brother and just letting go of the anger associated with his treatment of family has helped me termendously!

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Wow DG!!! How wonderful!

You have made my day just telling me this.

It just re-confirms my belief that letting go of the should's, ought's, and stuff that we get so upset or angry over is best for our health.

It has nothing or little to do with whether or not a person is "justified" in their anger or hurt. Sometimes we may be correct in our assessments but that and whole bunch of anger, anxiety, hurt and so forth can get you pretty sick. And is that worth it? Nah!

The graphic is so cute Denise. Smart mice. They can spell your name. LOL

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Yes and make bubbles too ;-)

Yep it really is freeing to just let it all go...of course I feel bad about my brothers treatment of Mother...but then again...he has chosen his road and I mine...I've just chosen the road that leads to LOVE :-)

By bandradzki
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Good for you DG!

Perhaps your brother will in time realize that Love IS the answer.

One can hope/pray that it be so.

Meanwhile hold love for him, not his actions, in your heart and just maybe in time......

Expect a miracle.

May the FORCE be with us - LOL!

taking the time to heal . . .

In Europe almost everything is operating on a skeleton crew during the month of August when people take a month off to enjoy each other, "take the waters" etc.

The American Dream may be fostering the achievement mentality - "if I only do this one more thing" -- that leads to stress.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if every corporation gave every employee the health care that person and that person's family needs so much as well as a month off to HEAL?

We'd certainly have healthier citizens and a better work force.

Force, did I use the "F" word? LOL!

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