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Stress & Anxiety, Hosted by Brenda

Brenda recognizes the role both play in her life. "Stress and anxiety aren't necessarily pleasant company," she says, "but sometimes they teach me a lot about myself and about being out of balance or incongruent. In that case I can call them friends. Stress and Anxiety? Yes...been there, done that, and made the silly T-shirt...LOL. But learned a lot and still growing."

--Brenda

By bandradzki
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Announcement:

Several of the last posts have apparently disappeared from this and perhaps all of the discussions. Whether or not these will be retrievable remains to be seen.

Brenda

By Nettie
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morning Brenda...

Yes, it has happened throughout :-(

Guess this is the spot to vent!

YELL YELL SCREAM SCREAM

%$&#@%&

By Nettie
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wish I had a bathtub :-((

By Oiseau
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Ah Nettie* you DO, the

Ah Nettie* you DO, the whole Ocean to yourself, it's salt water isn't it? ha ha ha

By Nettie
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so true, Oiseau!! :-))

By bandradzki
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Balance.

We can easily get out of it for sure and there are lots of ways to equal things out and discharge that energy.

After a massage, some also recommended that you soak in espom salts or apple cider vinegar. A cup will usually do. Massage will also free up the "trapped" energy in our bodies and the soaking (I think) is supposed to help pull it out and bring balance. Also helps with any soreness you may experience.

But if one of our massage therapists out there read this and want to make any corrections or additions, please feel free to do so.

Bogged down energy. Yep, I think so too, PJ. Some would say in the Eastern thought, that we feel "bogged down" because of resistance to what is and our judgment of it. Our attitude towards things can make a heap of difference.

Neat of you to make those connections about our sayings and clichés to this idea, Irene. Gives us a little more understanding of where these might have come from, huh?

Brenda

By JeanneSoCal
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Hi Brenda...

Actually, I've never heard of that technique. But it sounds like a terrific idea! I'll check around with other massage people and try it out myself as well. What a good thing to be able to suggest to my clients. I appreciate that you mentioned it!!!!! Thanks!

Homeward Bound Bar & Grill .... and SPA!
Seeking and Sharing Sound Advice

By bandradzki
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I am not always sure how much the soaking helps Jeanne,

but it can't hurt, right? :)

A soak in a tub is just nice and relaxing anyway.

When I learned about it some say use apple cider vinegar and others say epsom salts.

I just had a massage last Friday but wouldn't mind it again today. Are you free today Jeanne? LOL

Brenda

By Oiseau
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Hello Bren.......happy day to you*

I, like you, enjoy the theraputic results of massage and just last week I asked about dry skin and itching.

The response was simple salt in the bath and of course tepid water, too hot is a no-no.

When we have sea salt it's great too but ordinary salt is wonderful. About half a box to the tub and soak for min of 10 minutes.

We, through the pores, absorb the base minerals and feel invigorated but the other marvellous bonus effect is skin like satin.

While the pores are receptive is a good time to apply a lotion with a high VitE content or/and DNA based for promotion of cell regeneration.

Gee! does it show that I listen to what I'm told? ha ha ha ha ha ha Bye for now* oiseau

By bandradzki
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Cool! I will have to try that! Thanks for the tip, my friend.

oooBrenda

By Sabre94
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Little Theory

I have a theory that much of our stress is caused by bogged down energy. Walking, exercising, laughing, crying, all help to balance this energy out.

I have heard that this is why a bath with sea salt or Epson Salts for the bath works as well. The salt absorbs the excess leaving us feeling more "normal".

((((Oiseau and Brenda))))

Sabre

By Oiseau
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Sounds more than plausible................

When we think about all the old clichés they seem to have been proven in reality and not just sayings.

Sabre.....when you mentioned pent up energy what came to mind,

"I'm so uptight I feel like I'm going to explode!"

That saying seems to confirm your idea, doesn't it? hugs.........*oiseau

By Sabre94
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Never thought of it that way but yes

We do have too much information overload, we get overstimulated and we need to purge ourselves of all this to balance ourselves, or bust.

Sabre

By bandradzki
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Hey there, Oiseau! Appreciate you too!

Ron and I often go to the park and walk. We don't concentrate so much on physical exercise as we do getting out in nature and discussing, as we walk, the things that are on our minds.

Sometimes something will be bothering one or both of us or we are trying to get clarity on something. Sometimes we need to vent.

But we always feel so much better after the walk and often do gain clarity or peace by just having walked and talked at the same time in Nature.

For us, it is a stress buster, a goal setter, a clarifier, and just down right enjoyable. ;)

Brenda

By Oiseau
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Ok - this is the place..................

where mutual appreciation is manifest it would seem, then, I can honestly tell you that I aprreciate you BOTH! ha ha ha ha ha ha

Stress is when I'm all set to post with the mouse loaded, ready to paste an image or info and I can't get to where I wish to be, the discussion page just won't cooperate!

Anxiety 'cause I may give up and forget to come back! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

The laughing at myself part I have invented so neither of these two things affect me for long!

It works too.......have a fun day - just smile*

By bandradzki
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Me too!

Co-hosting with you enriches me.

Brenda

By Sabre94
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You mean follow love and peace?

Hey that sounds good to me. I like the slogan that says: "To Thine Own Self Be True"

To me, that is where God lives, in my authentic self. I agree that living in the truth of who we are meant to be prevents stress.

It takes the grace of humility to accept that we do not have to be all things too all people. I know, I have a tendency be superwoman..yeah right! NO is a freeing word.!

Bren? Glad we are co-hosts.

Sabre

By bandradzki
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I think sometimes stress occurs when we are not in alignment on

"To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could
anything be more fun?
--Katharine Graham

For me lately getting a better handle on what truly gets me juiced up, excited, turned on, and what doesn't, has been a real eye opener. Sorting through and making decisions on what I seem to be drawn to rather than what others may think is best for me or what the world/society as a whole holds up to be valuable and worth while.

The more I do that, the better I feel, the more relaxed I am, and the less stress. At least that stress that is induced by going against my own "grain".

My advice? Find what you are drawn to, leave alone what you don't have that same feeling about and then put your energies where your heart is. And last but not least, do it withou judging what you reject as bad. It just isn't your cup of tea.

Brenda

By JeanneSoCal
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How to De-Stress Yourself

You all are invited to come to Homeward Bound Bar and Grill's first annual LUAU!

Tomorrow, Sunday, 5 pm PST.

It's going to be fantastic. Wear your grass skirt or Aloha shirt. Everyone gets a lei! We'll be whisked away to a secret location!!! So be on time!

Homeward Bound Bar & Grill .... and SPA!

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Thanks for the inspiration

Donna, your triumph is truly inspiring. I wish that there were more women who had the courage to get out of emotionally and physically abusive relationships like you did. I am an emergency room nurse and while I have been fortunate in my most recent assignment to not have to cope with a great deal of physically abused women, I do deal with a l;arge volume of women who have allowed themselves to be emotionally abused by men to the point that they find no value or joy in their lives. I see so many women come into the E.D. as suicide attempts because of the hopelessness that they feel. They are no longer able to rely on themselves as a solid source of motivation to go on. I feel so badly for these women and offer them what physical and emotional help that I can but it is a long road. It is also not an easy road, especially without any sort of support. Most of the women I meet at eork have cut off their relationship with their families over the same man that is now the source of their hopelessness.
Once again Donna, congratulations and keep on pushing to stay strong and healthy in all your relatioships.

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Hi Donna. So glad you found your way out of that stressful life

Do you know we have a forum just for those who are living with or have lived with an ancoholic?

If you haven't, please share your story there as well. It could give a lot of people hope.

click here for forum.

Brenda

In Loving reply to Louisa4

My name is Donna and I was married for 20 years to an alcoholic. I married very young right out of high school and over the 20 years had 4 beautiful children. In my 20th year of my marriage, my 19 year old son ask me "why do you stay with dad, mom?" he went on to say how unhappy I seemed and that he had'nt seen my ex or myself talk in months. I had read about alanon and self help books for co-dependence and new that I fell into that catagory.. I went to some meetings in alanon and took many long walks in silence. I learned to love nature and myself. I prayed, and imagined life without an alcoholic. I felt lost but yet renewed.
I can't explain how I felt in those days, really. Trapped, lonely, sad. My ex was drunk every night and alanon gave me the strength to tell him that he had to take his drinking out of our lives.. he took it to the basement which my kids called the dungeon. He choose to live in the dungeon over living with his family.. Months went by and I realized that the only person who could bring me peace and love was myself. He was never going to come out of dungeon. HE was never going to change. I had to think about if this is the lifestyle I wanted for the rest of my life.. The craziness and chaotic daily ritual. The loneliness and isolation I felt. I stopped checking on him. Stopped begging him. Stopped listening to his negativity. Stopped talking. I had to for my own sanity. I found as I stopped listening to the co-dependent me, I realized I was stronger and stronger. I finally gathered strength and moved out of the house..I gave him six months to seek help with his drinking problem or I would divorce. He never did seek help. My then 14 year old daughter and myself moved into a small apt. I cried for months. Our standard of living went down but yet it was peaceful and happier. To this day I remember on a whim my daughter and I took a day long road trip to an apple festival.. Our first taste of freedom and what a peaceful day it was.. We had so much fun and I knew when I came home there would be no arguments, no craziness. It was an awakening day for me.. I am not telling you to leave your husband.. But what I did realize that day, is we can not change the alcoholic. But we can change our selves and what we will and will not live with. Today I have a wonderful husband. I met him about 5 years ago. He is caring and loving and attentive. A soulmate. A friend. I thank God everyday for giving me the peace and happiness that every woman dreams of.. I wish this for you. I learned to love myself and respect myself. I had to first set boundaries in my life. Then I had to learn to give to me. Give love and time and most of all respect, to myself. When I did this, I found love from other people, I found my soulmate. Bless you and your life. I hope you find the peace you deserve. Donna

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Stress

Hi Mary,

What a shock that must have been coming back to find your friend like that. You were indeed a friend to her having her wishes adheared to. Grief takes time to heal and you will get over it, and then you can remember all the loving times you had together. She is, I am sure, much happier now, not having any pain, and is at peace.
It's good that you shared this with us, and I will give you a big hug mentally, and hope that you know that you are not alone in this.

Anne

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By bandradzki
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Hi Mary! (((((((((((((((((((((MARY)))))))))))))))))

Wish I could give them in person.

When you have a moment, perhaps the end of the day, go have yourself a good cry. In the arms of someone who loves you and cares about you would be best but you can wrap yourself in the Loving Power that directs this universe and then have your cry. In this Loving Energy I and all those have ever grieved a loss in their entire life will be there with you to comfort you and to let you know it is okay to grieve.

Feel it however deeply you need to so that you can move out of the pain and move on.

Bless you for all that you do. Bless you for all the love you give. Bless you for being you.

Sending you all my love and support and loving thoughts,

Brenda

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Stress!

Right now I am going through a bit of stress in my life. I have been attending college on a regular basis since the beginning of March. In addition to that, I have had a friend who was going through a bad time, with cancer. I have been staying with her off and on since she got out of the hospital. Yesterday, I had an appointment, and was later getting back to her home, than I usually am when I go there. When I arrived, I found her lying on the couch, and was unable to get her to respond to me. I called 911, but, because she lives about 35 miles from town, they took time to come to her house.They finally arrived, and came in, and looked at her, and asked me how long she had been in this condition. Of course, I could not answer them, but I said, "here in a folder is a living will. Please will you look at it, and follow the instructions?" Her will stated that in case of collapse, she was not to be resuccitated. But, they took her immediately by ambulance to the nearest hospital, and I followed in the car. I got there, and went to the Emergency Station, and asked for any information on her. I was told that I could not find out anything, until after a doctor had been called. This I understood, so sat there and waited. Finally, after about 3 hours, a young man came into the waiting room, and asked if anyone was there on her behalf. I went over to him, and said "Yes, I was, and could I possibly have any information?" He then told me that they were unable to revive her, and according to her wishes, they did not proceed to do any more follow up procedures.My dear friend, whom I have known for almost 30 years, has passed away. I feel quite stressed out over it, because I did not think the end was so close. She had been fighting valiantly to stay alive, by doing so many things and trying to keep her spirits up. I also do volunteer work at a shelter for homeless, and because our Street Pastor has had a problem with his vehicle, I go there earlier in the mornings than usual. Today, I had to go there, as I had the keys to open up. I went, with a very heavy heart....and wanted to talk to him, but as usual, he was bombarded with questions, and with requests for help. I let it go....I did not want to bother him with my problems this morning. I just know though, that I wanted a bit of a hug.....and I know that sometime, possibly later today, I may be able to receive one, if I ask for it. Today is a busy day there, as being the Friday before our local assistance cheques come out, a roast beef dinner is being served, so this is the wrong day for Mary to need anything.....instead, Mary has to give of herself. I know though, that in giving we do receive, and I will go there, and do my part, because eventually, I will find the time on my own to do my own grieving and relieve my stress. I just had to share this.....I guess because I am alone....and just needed a little bit of a pick me up....and I know that my friend Pea Jay will read this, and say a wee prayer. God Bless you Pauline, for being my friend....thank you once again in advance for what you do. Hugsssssssss....Mary

By Nettie
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oh (((Mary)))

Sure wish I could give you a big in person hug...lots of love heading your way.

xox

By Sabre94
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Gosh Mary

What a shock that Kathy left so soon. Who would have thought that she was that far along? It had to be such a shock for you to find her. What a blessing for her though..You respected her wishes and saw to it that she retained her dignity. You are a true friend. Bet you have a brand new spirit friend now Mary.

Mary? Do me a favor? Review the signs of burnout and see if any apply to you? Please don't burn out at this point of your life. OK?
Please take care of you?

Bug higs Mary and loce and and all those funny things. (\o/)

I send love and prayers too.

Pauline

By Sabre94
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Good reminder

Stress is stress and it is how we deal with it that counts. We can channel our excess energies. If not dealt with, then we have consequences.

Talking and walking is great. Music, reading, meditations, thinking it out, Epson Salt baths, massage, some of the tools I use to manage.

Thanks Bren..good luck with your new students

Sabre

By bandradzki
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Stress is stress - good or bad.

Summer semester started back yesterday so after about 3 weeks of break, I had to dust off the old text book, and prepare to meet my new students. Very stressful.

I couldn't seem to access the things I needed yesterday on the computer and couldn't find my lecture notes, etc.

Then, too, remember the anxiety you used to experience when you were in grade school when you had to start back after the Summer? Well, that never seems to go away.

So I left here stressed to the max, trying to listen to my nice soothing music in the car, and taking deep breaths.

Once I started the class, that kind of stress went away....the kind you get being nervous or feeling unprepared or whatever. But then I was on....on stage and turned on both. That was fun stress but stress nevertheless. Glad no one was around to take my blood pressure. LOL

Afterward it was 7:30 p.m. but still light so met my hubby for a walk at our local park. Walk and talk. And that really helped to tone me down. All that energy had to go somewhere. LOL

"Good" stress/"Bad" stress. Stress is stress.

Think I will go get that massage this morning.

;)

Bren

By Oiseau
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I lovely thought to

I lovely thought to ponder*

"There is no greatness where there is not simplicity."

--Leo Tolstoy

By bandradzki
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PJ, I love the idea you have come up with for a celebration!

How nice and yet simple.

And for heaven's sake, get better soon. My goodness. How long since you had a massage or Reiki or just an old-fashioned hands on healing? Leave no stone unturned. ;)

Love ya,

Brenda

By Sabre94
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Lessons

I am having to learn to say no once again and/or ask for help. Yesterday and today I have been really tired and coughing more than before.

But, my parents' 60th wedding anniversary looms near and there is so much to do. Even finding addresses to send out announcement letters is a chore. Can you imagine? My daughter is busy until June 5th and my support system is unavailable this week. I need to keep looking. The celebration is July 9th so time is of the essence.

I feel better just having shared with you..

Take care all..See you later.

Sabre

All I need it courage and do what I can. And ask God to take over so that help comes my way.

Take Care

I've been reading about your poor health and cough for some time now, Sabre.

I hate to state the obvious, but have you seen a doctor yet?? Your condition shouldn't go on and on.

Just a thought and a concern.

I certainly hope that you're getting enough rest and some good nutrition, plus, perhaps, some extra vitamins.

I've been in this place of chronic respiratory conditions and being run-down. For me, a doctor's assistance, rest, and supplements made the difference. Mostly rest - complete, lie-down, relaxed rest, followed by a simpler, slower lifestyle, quite frankly.

Please excuse so much unsolicted advice from a total stranger! : )

Thank you so much for your work and help here on ThirdAge! I appreciate it.

Get well quick!

Carolyn

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How thoughtful you are

Carolyn..God Bless You. I am touched that you have come forth. Unsolicited advice but so appreciated.

Yes, I have good nutrition, plus am taking potent vitamins suggested to me by a nathuropath. Can't get these in a health food store or drug store.

I have been to a walk-in clinic, emergency, followed by a visit to my own physician. I return to him on the 13th for my yearly physical.
I have been on antibiotics, a puffer, steroids, and have had a chest x-ray done. I have been unable to do much, so perforce, rest has been enjoyed. Now, I visit my chiropractor regularly and get adjusted and sit in the magnetotron for 15 minutes. I also take Epson Salts baths and take extra vit C and echinacea. I try to drink lots of water, but I have trouble drinking a glass an hour. I also have been going to gentle walks to build up my strength. Most of all, I am saying NO. Hard job for a superwomen. LOL..I quit!

Thanks for your caring presence.

Thanks for YOUR caring presence.

Wow, it certainly does sound as if you are working hard at helping yourself to feel better. Good!

I'll bet it's just a matter of time and of keeping your spirits up (something you already know much about : )

I do understand and appreciate your words here:

"Most of all, I am saying NO. Hard job for a superwomen."

I've been there myself. And, learned this lesson the hard way. A bad case of pneumonia makes it real easy to get over the SuperWoman thing.

Besides, I've seemed to reach an age in which "ambition" and "multi-tasking" have become dirty words. My pace has slowed - and *I like it* that way.

BTW, not long ago I had an online job similar to yours. While it can be fun and rewarding, it can be more tasking than is obvious.

I had to quit because I knew I wouldn't have the time, etc. for my college homework, the online job, and all the rest of my life. (I was right!)

Don't work too hard, but do be sure that we appreciate your contributions here on TA.

chm

By Oiseau
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Hello Carolyn.........this

Hello Carolyn.........this discussion is on my list of favorites so I get thrown here when I check for messages. ha ha ha

How happy you make me to read your concern for a complete stranger.

Sabre is a precious friend to many people and she obvioulsy has conveyed this to you, through this marvellous medium.

Bless you for coming forward.....and CARING!

Thanks

And, bless you for your caring and for your contributions around TA.

Yes, I have been lurking and have read you many times in mulitple places. : )

Your and Sabre's posts have been most inspirational and helpful. Pick-me-ups!

Yes, and that includes the humor, too. ; )

chm

By Nettie
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(((Sabre)))

Sabre, you must take care of yourself, PLEASE.

I am absolutely certain your parents will cherish a healthy daughter over a celebration.

PLEASE do not stress over this and just REST.

xox

By Oiseau
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Amen to what Nettie has just

Amen to what Nettie has just said. And I have the proof from my parents.

It was impossible for me to coordinate a get-together for the family for their 65th so I didn't.

Siblings complained, aunts complained etc but the Parents were the first to congratulate me for not putting them through another circus.

Needless to say I was most grateful to them!

By Sabre94
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Very simple celebration

All we are doing is writing a simple letter to tell people where to meet to say hi to my parents. We have rented a room in a Holiday Inn where we can gather from 2-5pm. They will cater light snacks and bartend. All we have to do is be there and have fun. My cousin is a fiddler and will play for us. No gifts...

Sound good? Here is the tentative letter I am composing.

Dear family and friends

We are delighted to invite you to an informal get together where family, friends and well-wishers can assemble and visit with our “newly weds”.

How time flies! On July eighth Jean and Emma Aubin will have journeyed through 60 years of marriage. And so, it is with joy and gratitude that we have the privilege to celebrate this remarkable event. My parents know we are planning something but not the details. Only you are privy to this.

Sunday July 9th, the Holiday Inn (Northbury), 50 Brady Street, Sudbury will host this gathering.
We will meet between 2:00 to 5:00pm and enjoy light snacks and refreshments. Family, friends, memories, renewing acquaintances all sound promising to me.

No gifts please. Your presence will be gift enough. Anyone who know Mom and Dad, will agree that simplicity is appreciated. I am really looking forward to seeing all of you but mostly, I can’t wait to see the look on their faces when they get the chance to see you again.

See? KISS~ keep is simple sweetheart LOL

Pauline

By Oiseau
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Just lovely Pauline*

Just lovely Pauline* Applause! xoxoxox

By Sabre94
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OH gee, thanks Irene

You being a writer and all, I sure do appreciate your approval. Hugs

Your f2f Canuck buddy, Pauline

By Oiseau
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LOL admiration society going

LOL admiration society going here.

You see I love K I S S and I VERY often have difficulty in accomplishing that! ha ha ha ha ha

By Sabre94
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You can believe it

I WILL take care of me. That is the whole lesson I am learning at this point. Pauline is not indispensable. I have asked God to take over and since He is not deaf, I know He did. ;)God is my very best stress buster Nettie.

And if I don't take care, I know a whole bunch of people who will BOP me on the head. Hahhaha

Sabre

By bandradzki
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No comment from me, just soaking it in. :) Ah......

By Oiseau
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TEN COMMANDMENTS FOR REDUCING STRESS

1. Thou Shalt Not Be Perfect, Or Even Try To Be.

2. Thou Shalt Not Try To Be All Things To All People.

3. Thou Shalt Sometimes Leave Things Undone That Ought To Be Done.

4. Thou Shalt Not Spread Thyself Too Thinly.

5. Thou Shalt Learn To Say No.

6. Thou Shalt Schedule Time For Thyself And For Thy Supportive Network.

7. Thou Shalt Switch Off And Do Nothing Regularly.

8. Thou Shalt Be Boring, Untidy, Inelegant, And Unattractive At Times.

9. Thou Shalt Not Even Feel Guilty.

10. Especially, Thou Shalt Not Be Thine Own Worst Enemy But Be Thine Own
Best Friend.

---------- From: "Estella Marie Guth"

By Sabre94
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Ah thank you, thank you.

Oiseau, you read my mind. I saw that in Womens Well and was wishing it was here. ;)

Sabre

By Oiseau
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A wish is a dream your heart

A wish is a dream your heart makes* smile

By Oiseau
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WOMEN MANAGING STRESS:

Researchers have gained insight into how women deal
with stress. The scientists at the University of California, Los Angeles,
say their study highlights one of the most basic differences between men's
and women's behavior.

Principal investigator Shelley Taylor termed a
female's behavior pattern as "tend and befriend," in which the response to
stressful conditions centers around protecting and nurturing the young and
seeking social contact and support from others, especially other females.

This differs from the traditional view of how both genders cope with stress.
"For decades, psychological research maintained that both men and women rely
on fight or flight to cope with stress -- meaning that when confronted by
stress, individuals either react with aggressive behavior, such as verbal
conflict and more drastic actions, or withdraw from the stressful
situation," Taylor said.

"We found that men often react to stress with a
fight-or-flight response, but women are more likely to manage their stress
with a tend-and-befriend response by nurturing their children or seeking
social contact."

The study will appear in the Psychological Review of the
American Psychological Association.

Transcript found in Health newsletter.

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