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Stress & Anxiety, Hosted by Brenda

Brenda recognizes the role both play in her life. "Stress and anxiety aren't necessarily pleasant company," she says, "but sometimes they teach me a lot about myself and about being out of balance or incongruent. In that case I can call them friends. Stress and Anxiety? Yes...been there, done that, and made the silly T-shirt...LOL. But learned a lot and still growing."

--Brenda

By Sabre94
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Quite interesting

What a neat article Oiseau. I tend to agree with that. No wonder men are apt to die younger if that is the way they deal with stress.

Sabre

By bandradzki
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Hi Jeanne! Sounds like a neat place to work.

Hey, and anybody who does massages is a gift in my book. :) I find massages very healing indeed. I feel like an absolutely wet noodle after. They have to pour me out the door and into my car wondering if I will even be able to drive. LOL

Bless you for the work you do.

Brenda

By JeanneSoCal
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Thanks, Brenda!

It certainly has made a difference in my life. I do house calls, actually. So afterward, when you're feeling like a wet noodle, all you have to do is roll of my table and into your own bed!!! (Although one friend of mine refused to get off the table one evening. Said she'd rent it for the night! LOL)

By Nettie
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wet noodle at home....

the best way, Jeanne!

last year while visiting my sis, she got a masseuse to come to her home and 'do' us both!

ahhhhhh....

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I've done that frequently, Nettie...

The two-fer that was the most fun was a couple in their seventies. My friend had given her parents massages for their anniversary. They are both so cute and so much in love...still. He went first, and he kept saying, "Ohhhh, my wife is going to love this. Ohhhh, she's really going to like that!" I was just so tickled!

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ROFLMBO!!!!!

By JeanneSoCal
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Welllll, let's see.......hmmmm

I'm back working again at a place where I've worked off'n on for over ten years. It's a tropical decor business with a terrific ambiance...palm trees, waterfalls, tikis (up to 12' high), giant clamshells, birds, monkeys, gorilla, music. We sell bamboo, thatching and tropical mattings, as well as many carved wood items (masks, shield, war clubs, tikis, etc.). We also rent Hawaiian/Polynesian props to the movies and anybody else who wants a tropical themed event and we sell Hawaiian Luau party supplies. Los Angeles Magazine is including us in an article in the July issue...my photo might be in it! And a TV show will be filming at our business some time in the summer
!

This time around the work I am doing is primarily computer work. We have a HUGE new computer at work, and I'm designing and creating all kinds of goodies...finished our new Price List, Party Supplies Brochure, and redid some catalog pages. Working on a website right now...and later will start on a redo of our major catalog. All this is giving me a wonderful creative outlet that I've really needed!!!!

My massage business is slow but steady. Between that and my Mary Kay business I add a few $$ each month. That's always good. The massage is very satisfying...I truly feel I am helping my clients in a healing way. That's very important to me.

One of my very best friends died just a short while ago and has left me feeling very bereft. I wasn't able to speak to her for a couple of weeks before she died...and so felt quite disconnected. I know she is in a much better place, but I do miss her.

My son, Vic, will be 29 this July and his Mom will be 55 in September. There have been some times when I didn't think I'd make it this far...it's good to see I'm still here. I've been using St. John's Wort for the last couple of months and it seems to really make a difference.

We now have five (one, two, three, four, FIVE!!) cats in this little apartment. Lots of love from all these furry creatures.

Well -- LOL -- I think that's enough. It feels very nice to be in touch with you, Sabre. I still remember our ICQ conversations. I am back on ICQ again, with this new puter....so if you're interested.......?

Love,

Jeanne

By Sabre94
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Great update..;)

Love all the news. You sure have a way of relating a story. I still have you on ICQ..if you have the same number, we are all set.

My son is still in California. He plans to move to San Diego this year sometime to work. He is a puter engineer. I hope to hop on over to see him in early October. He will probably still be in Mountview then though.

My daughter and haer family are going in July right after we celebrate my parents' 60th wedding anniversary.

Your work sounds like so much fun. Wish I were a little bird to watch you..Heheh..I might mind travel..sooo..if you feel like you are being watched..it's me..LOL

Take care Jeanne..

Sabre

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Well, that would truly be neat, Sabre!

I'd love to meet you face to face....and give you a great big hug!!!

Jeanne

By Sabre94
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Hug

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A gift ...

By Sabre94
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Beautiful

Thanks dear Massage Lady for spreading love and cheer.

It is really nice to see you here.

Sabre

By JeanneSoCal
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Hi Sabre!!!!

It's so nice to be able to be here! Possibly you've heard? I have a NEW computer!! Now I can go anywhere!!!.

I'm delighted to be able to visit more forums and see more of my old friends. Well...not old friends, um, uh, oh gosh! You know what I mean!!!

By Sabre94
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New puter

Yup, I heard and was so tickled pink for you. Sounds like your life is falling place nicely. So, care to update us on what you have been up to besides your height?

Hahahah

Sabre

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By Nettie
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other's stress...

Yes, Brenda, talking gently and probably just doing a lot of listening helps, too.

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How about the stress and anxiety someone else is feeling?

We mostly concern ourselves with our own stress and anxiety when it pops up but what about other people's?

Last night my daughter whose husband is and has been working out of town for the past few months called me in a panic.

She works and manages a job, a new baby, a 10 year old, the house, takes care of the paperwork and books for her deceased Father's business, works like crazy in her church, and generally has way too many responsibilities.

She puts the alarm on when her husband is out of town. Last night after midnight, the alarm went off indicating a fire. Thank goodness there wasn't one but it startled her and then she couldn't remember where she put the number to call in to the dispatcher to tell her it was a false alarm and she couldn't remember the password to tell her when the dispatcher called. They did turn her alarm off but dispatched the police anyway. She was freaking out. So she called me.

I spoke to her calmly and gently. Then told her everything was fine. That having the police come was probably best. Has happened to me before. No harm done, etc.

You don't help others with their anxiety, fears, or stress level by taking it on. You help them by remaining on the observer side of the fence and talking them through it.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Brenda

By Sabre94
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A gentle reassuring voice

She was blessed to be able to turn to you. Wonder if you thought it a blessing when the police had to visit you for the same purpose? Yet your experience was a powerful tool in calming her down I bet. We just never know..

Thank God it was a false alarm

By bandradzki
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One way to cope with stress and anxiety is to keep things as sim

Have a joke to illustrate:

The letter from the Air Force colonel in charge of safety said that rocket boosters weighing more than 300,000 pounds "have an explosive force upon surface impact that is sufficient to exceed the accepted overpressure threshold of physiological damage for
exposed personnel."

In other words, if a 300,000-pound booster rocket falls on
you, it's gonna hurt.

...............................................

Humans have a penchant for padding things, using excesses, and complicating things. We use all kinds of times savers, why not start with simplifying?

Did you ever have to do a name change? It will probably take me the rest of the year to get everything changed. Some places/businesses/accounts require me to supply copies or originals of marriage certificates, driver's license or social security card to do it. That's not all but I won't bore you with it.

I will leave you with this one word that relieves some stress if I yell it loud enough:
AARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Remember: KISS - Keep It Simple Sweetie

Bren

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Chocolate chip or

Chocolate chip or peanutbutter cookies dunked in skimmed chocolate milk.....Hmmmmmm GOODšGingersnap›

By Oiseau
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OK...so I'll admit too that I buy.....

Natural sour cream doughtnuts at Tim Hortons and let them go hard so I can dunk! ha ha ha ha

By Sabre94
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HAHAAHAHAHAHHAH

Hack, hack..oh that hurts..But it's ok..

Hahahahha

You are such a nut Oiseau ;)

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Oh Hun..I'm sorry - forgot it hurts you to laugh

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

By Nettie
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dunking

I love dunking in milk....graham crackers, chocolate chip cookies and oreos! Also toast in hot chocolate.

All very comforting!

xox

By bandradzki
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To dunk or not to dunk.....that is the question....

If it's stale, go for it. If not, go for it anyway! LOL

My dad used to dunk stuff all the time but he grew up eating a lot of stale stuff. It was cheaper and you didn't waste a thing. If you bought it fresh, and it got stale, you didn't throw it out, you dunked it.

Speaking of sweets and such, did you ever notice that sometimes certain foods are "comfort" foods when you are tense and stressed?

Some probably sooth a person because of the chemical reaction it causes making one feel more relaxed or sleepy. Some sooth because you associate it with a more relaxed time in your life.

But eating for stress can also add the pounds it seems for some.....bummer!

I gotta go find something to dunk now. All this talk has got me craving. ROFLOL

Brenda

P.S. Hey Cha-Cha....I need dance lessons.

By Oiseau
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Caffein never hurt anyone eh? ha ha ha ha

By Sabre94
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LOL

Fred hates to see us all dunking. He find is gross. And we LOVE it.

By Oiseau
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Who is WE and do you mean donuts? lol

By Sabre94
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All of us

Like..parents, kids, in-law, and we dunk toast, cookies, donuts, whatever. Heheh

By Oiseau
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Ok I get the picture LOL - looking good..........

LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE, OF COURSE!

WHAT A GREAT BUNCH OF LADIES YOU ALL ARE...
AND I DO SO ENJOY INTERACTING WITH ALL OF YOU!

BRENDA, Your very kind words are most sincerely
appreciated. I think every one needs to get a
little "pat" on the back every so often.
(A pat for Pat--LOL)

I haven't seen those particular commercials
either and I for one turn on the tube MUCH TOO
MUCH! I did have to laugh at the thought of
them, SABRE.

Reading all the talk about laughter made me
think just how great it is to be able to laugh
at things. And what a way to beat stress and
anxiety!

When I finally realized that I could actually
laugh or make jokes about most of the miserable
stuff I had been living through, I knew then
I would be okay -- I WAS okay. Being able to
laugh at ourselves is a gift we don't appreciate
until it's gone. And that is sad for us all.

NETTIE, you have much wisdom in your being ---
We have several posts in our new Discussion
that shows exactly that. I hope you will
continue to honor me with your advice and, yes,
wisdom.

As I hope will you all in this excellent
discussion!

XOX Pat

Laughter is the best medicine....

But dancing runs a close second! L.O.L.

(I had to uncloak for that one!!!)

ChaCha the lurker...

A LITTLE BIT OF RICKY MARTIN SURE DOESN'T HURT......

HI ALL! SABRE, love the happy face man!

CHACHA, you definately have got that right!
Not to mention how great a hour of dancing is
for keeping the weight I lost off....I am
partial to "EuroDance" music myself. Relieve
stress too - you betcha!

My taste in music has gotten very progressive
these days....my girls borrow MY CD's! LOL
Not bad for a 53 year old lady, eh, CHACHA?
;-)

HAVE A FUN DAY, LADIES! Pat

By Oiseau
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Don't you know Chach that we can 'feel' you?

I love your analogy - like the Klingons in their War Birds - those wonderfully futuristic Space Ships!

Uncloak more often so we can play! ha ha ha

By Sabre94
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This is too good to pass up LOL

By Oiseau
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Great show Sabre* ha ha ha ha

By bandradzki
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Hi ladies!

Good to see your sweet face in this forum Pat!

I haven't seen the commercial either PJ. Either it is shown in Canada and not in the US or.....it's because yours truly rarely turns the tube on. They DO have some funny ones though. Some of them are so good/memorable/funny that people don't forget them and often will use the slogans for years. Like the one "Where's the beef?" Or, "I/ve fallen and I can't get up." The latter one wasn't funny per se, rather a serious message but people did take offs from that and that was funny.

Words or sentences from movies sometimes stick with us too. "Here's lookin' at you kid."

Pat, the Serenity Prayer is so powerful. Can't really hear that one (or say it either) too many times. I am delighted you took back your power Pat. What an inspiration and example you are!

Now Nettie, I think you have plenty of Wisdom. You just may not recognize it as such at the time.

Enjoyed reading all the posts. Enjoyed your company. Love visiting with you.

Have a great evening and enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Brenda/Bren

By Nettie
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teehee

Well...Sabre, I've never seen those commercials, but hey...I'll laugh with ya!

They only part of the serenity prayer that I have a problem with is the Wisdom part....ha ha!

STRESS, ANXIETY, AND STAYING ALIVE......

HI SABRE AND BRENDA AND EVERYONE! I should
have found this Discussion a long time ago,
since I think someone put "STRESS AND MUCH
ANXIETY" on my job description for being born!
LOL

Anyway, by the time January 1998 rolled around,
I was up over my eyeballs dealing with an alcoholic spouse, death of my Dad, seriously
ill Mother and Mother-in-law, brother fighting
cancer, deaths of others very close to my heart,
raising three daughters and trying to keep them
healthy in this crazy environment; not to mention the fact I had gained a lot of weight
because of all the stress and self-esteem had
long gone out the window.

I think you get the picture....sort of where if
I had to worry about anything else, I would have
had to get one of those little number machines
stores use and start assigning numbers!
Codependent, with a capital C of course.

That New Year's morning I decided enough was
enough and (I credit God cause I couldn't have
done it alone)from that day forward, I took
control back of my life. I started into learning
how to deal with all the stress, etc. and just
LET IT GO. A funny thing happened, it worked!
The weight went; the self-esteem came back.
I learned TAI-CHI for relaxation and am still
learning new things each day.

One of the best things that came into my life
came into it through the family groups while
my husband was in treatment for alcoholism.
The Serenity Prayer. This is now the way I
try to live and it does put everything into
perspective.

"GOD GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS
I CANNOT CHANGE; COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS
I CAN; AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE."

And that pretty much says it all..........

{{{HAPPINESS TO ALL}}} Pat

By Nettie
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Hi Pat!

Thanks for sharing...and of course for posting the wonderful Serenity Prayer! Can never read that too many times!

xox

By Sabre94
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Old Timer wisdom LOL

I know an old timer who says, "Some days, I just say..Lord, grant me Serenity...period.". Hahhah

And now for humour..Hehe

Has anyone seen the Diet Pepsi commercials? They are too funny. I was watching one two days ago and laughed so hard, I cried. Of course, my fluish weakened (you crying yet?) condition led me to release all my whatevers and I laughed and laughed. OK Which one?

Well there are two..the first one I saw has a lady in the back seat of a cab, and the cab is stopped. She looks out the side window and sees a black Volkswagen drive by. She then takes a chugalug from her Pepsi & her eyes go huge and she bops the cabby behind the head and says. Punch Buggy!

The other one is a dapper dandy trying on a new suit and the salesman takes a sip and gets all impish and pulls the man's short up between his buttocks. "How does THAT fit?" And the look on the mans face !!! Oh dear..I forget what we call that..a wedgie? Oh well.

Heheheh

By Sabre94
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Empowerment

I like to interdepend as opposed to codepend nowadays. To me, to codepend is to not take a choice as to who does what for you. This leads to manipulation.

With this paid for tech support. I tried for years to find local resources. They always land up not not using the system to its fullest and don't have any answers. So this will be such a boon for me to have help!! Yippee!

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I think that stress is somewhat alleviated when we have a suppor

A certain amount of ability to take care of whatever is at hand is necessary. So independence is a very good thing to develop.

But being able to deal with what is at hand and yet keeping your "independence" also includes calling in an expert, asking a friend or family member for a little temporary assistance. (I stress the word temporary.)

And so, even when we feel like we are being dependent upon someone else, we also are exercising some form of independence when you think about it. You are in charge of your choices and your judgements and reactions.

I think we think of the word helpless or victim in association with having to depend upon someone or something else. But that isn't necessarily true.

Feeling helpless or feeling like a victim in a situation can produce lots of stress. Empowerment on the other hand relieves it.

Spending too much time and energy resisting what is in the situation only fuels the stress. But making a decision and not kicking your own tail for whatever decision(s) you make taking charge of it, including paying for or asking for help, will fuel self esteem and reduce that trapped, helpless, vicitm feeling and consequently stress level.

At least that's how it seems to me. ;)

More another time about support systems and stress levels from another perspective.

But let me leave you with this thought: True independence comes through empowerment.

Have an empowered day. ;)

Brenda

By bandradzki
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When you want to kill the plant, chop up the root.

So, when you want to get rid of not just the stress but the root of it, your task may seem too large so you settle for just relief and not "cure".

Sometimes you think you have the cure. You change jobs for example. Or divorce the rat. Or get a face lift (L0L), or whatever. But wherever you go, there you are. Relieved you but did you get the root?

By Sabre94
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That reminds of my student nursing days

On ef the doctors that taught us left us we wise words. "Treat the cause, not the symptoms."

I just went through a very stressful stage. My system at work locked as I was backing up my file. ;( I called the company to tell them THEIR product malfunctioned.
My tech support option had expired two years ago...So, I went about restarting all transactions from September '99. Man what a task. No way was I paying that $200 tech support. Nope..I had to just about burn out first. THEN I paid them and they showed me to delete a .lok file!

As I was going through all that, I was so impressed with my calm in this crisis. Looking back, I think I had one huge lesson to learn. My time is valuable, and don't be so cheap LOL.

So I had a healing of my attitudes. Yippee!

By Nettie
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So happy...

...that your ordeal is over, ((Sabre)), isn't it wonderful when we actually learn something from a stressful situation!?

By Sabre94
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Still learning from the consequences Nettie. I am sore all over and really dizzy. My body is saying get to bed woman. So, off I go.

Thanks for the hugs ladies..love 'em

By bandradzki
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I can relate, PJ.

When I moved from my daughter's basement apartment to my new house in October of 98, my son-in-law got his nephews to help (high school kids). Well, Karen's house is practically next door so we didn't have far to move. A few pieces of furniture got damaged but what was worse, I didn't get a professional to move my baby grand piano. You guessed it. Got damaged REALLY bad. Probably will cost me around $2500 to get it repaired and refinished.

Funny thing is, a few years back that would have just torn me up to see it damaged and then to know what it would take to repair it IF I get it repaired. That I didn't get that upset is great. I learned as you did PJ, that sometimes it pays to not try to get by so cheaply. Costs you more in the long run.

At the time though, it was done the way it was done b/c I still wasn't sure what kind of income I was going to have to live on from the trust my first/deceased husband set up. So, I was being careful. Had to finish the house he and I had started and I was terrified about being able to pay for everything and take care of the monthly expenses. So, I don't blame me but I am learning to not worry so much about income and pinching those pennies too tightly. :)

By Sabre94
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We do the best we can

Sounds like we decided with information on hand at the time. Hind sight is so 20/20 LOL

It did take for me to nearly burn out to purchase tech support though. My hubby really freed me by pointing out that his system to prepare appraisal reports requires tech support as well.

A thought just came to me. I do have the tendency to not ask for help and to think I have to do it on my own. I wonder where I got that idea from? I remember way back when after hubby and I separated and I was living alone with the kids. I became a Ms. Fix-it. Until the dishwasher broke. Then I exclaimed " Now what am I supposed to do with this?" What answer did I get? Of course, I was not supposed to know everything and be all things to all men. That's what others are there for.

My attitude of going it alone might stem from a poor support system. Seems like I could be there for others but when I needed, poof. So this taught me to be 'independant'.

I do get help with volunteer stuff I do though. It's just in my personal life. oh well, enough musing for one morning.

See what your post prompted Bren? Thanks..;)

PJ

By Oiseau
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From necessity comes the independence* s *

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