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Stress & Anxiety, Hosted by Brenda

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Stress & Anxiety, Hosted by Brenda

Brenda recognizes the role both play in her life. "Stress and anxiety aren't necessarily pleasant company," she says, "but sometimes they teach me a lot about myself and about being out of balance or incongruent. In that case I can call them friends. Stress and Anxiety? Yes...been there, done that, and made the silly T-shirt...LOL. But learned a lot and still growing."

--Brenda

By Sabre94
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Yeppers Oiseau ;)

By Oiseau
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(((((((((((((((((Sabre)))))))))))))))))))

By Nettie
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temporary relief...

So true, Brenda. Sometimes those 'little cures' can contribute to worsening the cause by covering up the symptoms...ie an aspirin for a brain tumor.

By bandradzki
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I guess if I were in your shoes, I might feel guilty

about not spending what I thought was adequate time with my child. Guilt will do a number on you for sure. Cause a lot of stress. But I was with my children every day as they grew up and I STILL can find myself feeling as though I failed to be the mother I thought I should be in terms of time spent with them and so forth. You can be with children and still not be with them if you know what I mean.

You can work on the guilt thing and learn to accept you are doing the best you can. If she knows you love her, that's the best you can give her regardless of the time I think.

You can also try relaxation teachniques - meditation, soak in warm tub, listen to relaxing music, and number of things but if guilt is causing your stress, it's just going to come back.

Maybe some other posters have some ideas for you to think about.

Brenda

By JusJane
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Stress

I'm currently taking the on-line class 3 weeks to a New You, & came across this section in 1 of my lessons. I'm open to ideas on stress-reduction. I'm currently in my 2nd marriage (5 months) & have a 12yr old daughter. She didn't want to change schools when I moved an hrs drive away. Her dad & I have joint custody, so she stays with him during the week & I get her on weekends. The main problem is that I work 7 days a week, sometimes 12hrs a day & don't have much time to spend with her even on weekends. This is a main stressor for me.

By Nettie
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7 days 12 hours!?

Danann....I guess you would be stressed and tired and probably cranky, too...

I would suggest you not work that much.

By bandradzki
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PeaJay, I never thought about those "exercises" before

God! If those got rid of pounds, I'd be skinny. ROFLOL!

I have been thinking about stress being that which we feel when we resist what is.

Still have a problem with that, I do. :)

By Nettie
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welcome home Brenda!

Yup...think you have hit on an important stresser....resistance.

By Oiseau
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hee hee hee Am I following you doll?

By Sabre94
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Following is a list of strenuous activities

to replace daily physical exercise:

1. Beating around the bush

2. Jumping to conclusions

3. Climbing the walls

4. Passing the buck

5. Throwing your weight around

6. Dragging your heels

7. Pushing your luck

8. Hitting the nail on the head

9. Bending over backwards

10. Jumping on the band wagon

11. Running around in circles

12. Climbing the walls

13. Pulling out the stops

14. Opening a can of worms
15.
16. Making mountains out of molehills

17. Wading through paperwork

18. Balancing the books

19. Starting the ball rolling

20. Going over th edge

21. Picking up the pieces

By Oiseau
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Part of lesson three*

EXERCISE VETERAN?
If you already follow a good exercise program, congratulations
and keep up the good work!

Don't get discouraged, it get's easier. hugs *oiseau

By bandradzki
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One last goodby before the trip.

Thanks for the good wishes for a good trip. :)

I inherited free cell on the computer so darned if I know how you get the thing. LOL But it's a great card game Janet. And yep guilty! I do it all the time while waiting for pages to load.
Can't just sit here waiting with nothing to do. ROFLOL

God! I hope I don't stress out because I can't get my free cell fix this next week. ROFLMBO

See ya later.

Love,

Brenda

By Sabre94
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Oh no! no Free Cell..;(

Just kidding Bren..Have a ball and see you soon. We will miss you..

PJ

By JanetP
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OK, I give......

What is Free Cell??

Sounds like something I could use while waiting for pages to load too LOL

Brenda, I wish you very happy holiday!!

By Nettie
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Free Cell

I'm sure you have it Janet...it comes with windows and is right next to the solitare game.

By JanetP
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Thank you Nettie

I'll check it out.

By Sabre94
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Keep in touch..

Let us know how you like it. ;)

PeaJay

By JanetP
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I don't have it....

or I can't find it :-(

I tried using the "Find" feature too.

By gingersnap
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Free Cell

Janet...on a PC with Win98SE, my free cell is at:
Start/Programs/Accessories/Games/Free Cell.

You might try that path with Win95, too...because it was quite similar, as I recall.

Gingersnap

By JanetP
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Thanks Gingersnap

I tried looking there too, but no luck.

Fortunately, Sabre emailed it to me :-)

By Sabre94
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I looked for free on mine and it came up

Check you email..hope it works ;)

PeaJay

By JanetP
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Thank you so much Sabre!!

I checked my email, and viola! it was there and works!!

Now I too have something to do while waiting for pages to turn hahaha

By Sabre94
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The Freecell club LOL

Have fun Jan and have a great day

PeaJay

By bandradzki
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Oh, Irene, you gotta try it.

Once you get the hang of it, it is sooooo much fun. At least I get to win once in a while with free cell. Solitaire bets the heck out of me. LOL

I haven't had a massage in a long time and think I am overdue for one. That is VERY relaxing. Helps relieve stress.

We can do things to temporarily help but guess if we never get to the root of what triggers off stress so much in us and why, it's going to come back.

Reminds me of trying to remove Palmettoes when we were clearing land in Florida years ago. If you don't get down with a pick axe and get that blessed root up, it will remain and grow.

Meanwhile, though, work with it on both levels.

I will be taking off a week starting tomorrow. I will try to get back in and post before I go, but if I don't, I will return after April 8. And I will see you all then. :)

Brenda

By Sabre94
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Have a joyful and blessed holiday Bren

Have a safe trip. Wonder what you will do without Free Cell? LOL

Like you, I win way more at Free Cell than Solitaire. I do Free Cell waiting for TA pages to load LOL..someone else is doing that and I really chuckled when I read it..

Looking forward to hearing about your San Diego trek..

PeaJay

By Nettie
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Free Cell

I'm in the club, too! and like you Sabre, play it while TA loads!

Have a great time Brenda!

By Oiseau
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NOW I'm curious. Just how long does it take for your pages to

and where do you put the pages.....one on top of the other or one beside the other.

Well, I told you, I'm really curious ha ha ha

AND, how come my header is more BOLD than yours!
Gosh, questions, questions, questions! LOL

By bandradzki
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GENTALIESBEAR, I'm like that with the computer.

Sometimes I just play solitare or Free Cell. It works!

Things are going to show improvement very soon for you. I just know it.

Love,

Brenda

By Sabre94
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Hey me too

I just love Free Cell and solitaire.

Sabre

By Oiseau
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Well* I play Solitaire but Free Cell looked odd so I never trie

By GENTALIESBEAR
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HELLO STRESS HINTS

As I read threw these listens I realize that it does help to go into your own world to focus on yourself by thinking of happy thoughts, a pleasant part of your life that makes you relax. For my stress which is foot surgey which I had back in july of 99, and still out of work,bills. I relax by doing a hobby that I stopped years ago which is car models,playing games and reading soothing poems or letters from freinds. If you take control of your life you can be the stress instead of it beating you.

By Oiseau
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Waiting...................time has changed me.

It used to be that I judged myself to be very impatient, most often at odds with myself and others when I had to wait, for anything!

That was when time was had a different meaning, had a different purpose.

It is no longer a factor as I AM rather than DO at this stage of my life. Being can be achieved anytime and so no time is wasted, as interpreted when we wait and stew for what we judge to be lost space.

I learned to get here by refusing to function with agendas anymore, to cease being part of the structured world.

Yes it is a marvellous luxury I have provided myself and not suitable for all but it works for me.

With this new vision I have helped many accomodate the bizarre practise of non-compliance to wasted time ie; A dentist appointment.

Allowing a 30 minute leeway for tardiness in respecting my appointment I then get up and leave if I'm not recognized or appreciated.

Oh yes, that's how I view it now! When questioned afterward or worse being sent a bill for MY not respecting a rendez-vous, with remittance of their due I include a bill of my own which usually is double or triple theirs with a description of why my time is so valuable.

Once I actully had the audacity to mention that I was unable to breathe freely due to the stress imposed by the atmosphere in the 'waiting room', for that's what it's called, like a holding cell!

Now, when I go for regular check ups I am welcomed most graciously and assured that I will be attended to shortly. THEY have learned respect and I no longer stew while I wait, I BREATHE nicely. Smiles........*oiseau

By bandradzki
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I guess that shows to go ya that if you don't respect yourself

By Oiseau
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Good question..............

By Sabre94
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Waiting

I like the way you found a way to BREATHE well Oiseau..What a gal..;)

Whenever I am caught up in a waiting line, I take advantage of it. I chat with those around me or read or turn within and enjoy my peaceful place, my God who dwells within.

Attitude is the key..Humour is great too..Hehhehe

Sabre

By bandradzki
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Wiating.

Mary, no matter how many times I read that piece, it is still significant. Good reminders for both helper and helpee. :)

Seems these days we do spend a lot of time waiting. Just how anxious that can make us depends on our frame of mind and that depends upon our interpretation of our situation I would imagine.

I not really terribly patient and yet I am. I think I am both because I can be patient, but sometimes while it appears I am being patient, I am also dialoging with myself how how long this is taking. ROFLOL

I guess finding something positive to do while waiting is a good way to deal with it and keep the anxiety monster from getting you.

Now if I can just remember that the next time I am waiting. :)

One last thing. Isn't it amazing what one can learn when one opens one's heart and mind?

Cool!

Happy Spring!

Brenda

By bandradzki
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Humor and having a good sense of humor has helped me through a l

But like the web site you directed us to said, when you are in the midst of a crisis you are right in the emotion of it and humor would not serve that person well right then. But once you have some distance from the crisis, humor can be beneficial.

My father was in a teaching hospital one time, very seriously ill. I had gotten the resident to check on him b/c his breathing seemed to indicate that he was in danger. They got the "crash cart" in there but sometime during the process, a doctor and students came in unexpectedly into the situation. The doctor with the students made some kind of joke which I could not quite hear (I was in the hall.) but it was a joke about my father. They came out laughing and carrying on and moved on down to the next room without a thought for my father's family who were gravely concerned about him. I wanted to strangle the doctor. It was no laughing matter to us.

The humor may have been an attempt to help the doctor and students in an uncomfortable situation or something but even at that it was not very helpful for us. We were hard pressed at that time to find humor in the situation.

This was very different from your example PeaJay. We also used humor during Dad's hospitialization as you did and it was beneficial to us; but, to have a stranger make jokes in the middle of a crisis about our loved one who was gravely ill was not appreciated. That was a horse of another color.

Humor under the right circumstances in midst of crisis can be a blessing and there's no doubt about that but under other circumstances, can make matters worse. Unless you could say that if in the story I just told you, the humor caused me to want to strangle the doctor, then it made me forgot my anxiety and fear for the moment in favor of anger. LOL

By Sabre94
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Wow..sure makes me think

I wonder if I ever hurt family and/or patients inadvertently..

This type of situation is so sensitive. We just never know how a family that is in turmoil, might be wounded for years..(((Bren)))

As a medical person, I ask forgiveness Bren for the thoughtlessness and levity in such a dire circumstance.

PeaJay

By bcingyou
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This can happen so often......

That we hurt the ones close to us, and don't even realize we are doing it.....I know I have.....but not intentionally. Right now, I am taking courses on personalities....and it sure has opened up my eyes to a lot of things.....where my preferences lie, and also how to listen.....most of the time we really do not listen to anyone. We hear what we want to hear, and most of the time, instead of listening, we start giving out advice, or saying...."If it was me, I would do....." and that is not what the person wanted. All they wanted was for someone to listen....to really hear what they were saying. Listening is a lost art. Most people do not listen actively, or reflectively. I was surprised to learn something else....we did an estimate of the percentage of time the average person spends engaged in each of the following means of communication: writing, reading, speaking and listening. Of course we all assumed that we only spend about 10% of our time listening, but actually we spend 45% of our waking hours listening to something. It includes everything we listen to....the radio, TV, our partners, other people, and basically everything we hear. We thought it meant how much time do we actually listen to other people when they ask us questions about things, or want us to listen to them.We received a hand out I would like to share LISTEN.....When I ask you to listen to me, and you start giving me advice, you have not done what I asked.When I ask you to listen to me, and you begin to tell me why I should not feel that way, you are trampling on my feelings.When I ask you to listen to me, and you feel you have to do something to solve my problem, you have failed me....strange as it may seem.LISTEN!!....All I asked was that you listen....NOT talk, or do.....just hear me!When you do something for me that I can and need to do for myself, you contribute to my fear and to my weakness....But....when you accept, as a simple fact, that I do feel what I feel, no matter how irrational, then I can quit trying to convince you, and get about my business of understanding what's behind this irrational fear....And when that is clear, the answers are obvious and I don't need advice.....So, PLEASE LISTEN, and just hear me.....and if you want to talk, wait a minute for your turn, and then I will promise to listen to you.....I thought this was so wise....and I wanted to share it with all of us here.Thanks for listening!Mary

By Nettie
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listening

Thanks so much for sharing that, Mary.

I was given that as a handout during a workshop for helping abused women.

waiting

Sabre, did you learn how much time we spend waiting? I can imagine it is a lot!

xox

By JanetP
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Listening

That is a powerful message Mary, thanks so much for sharing it.

I am so glad to see you getting so much out of your endeavors.

More power to you!

By Sabre94
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HI Jan and Bcingyou

I had not read that piece on listening in quite a while..

I find we do listen quite a lot. And wait. I heard once in a workshop that we spend a lot of time waiting.

Sounds like you are learning more and more all the time BC..I think that is soooo wonderful!

Pauline

By Sabre94
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Humor in a crisis

I am curious as to how people deal with a crisis? Here is an article I found on humour and crisis.

In a crisis, I tend to get really calm, deal with it and shake later.

Can we start a little discussion on this?

PeaJay

By Nettie
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humor and crisis

Good article, Sabre. Thanks for sharing it.

I would also think that trying to use humor to defuse a crisis would include knowing if the person in crisis had a good sense of humor to start with...I've discovered that some people just don't!

xox

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Self-made

By Nettie
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humor

Sabre, I have used humor in a couple of family crisis situations, a funeral and my sister in the hospital in critical condition (she recovered). Both situations were helped, but I did know the participants very well...

By Sabre94
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Come to think of it..

I HAVE used humor when my dad was in the heart unit. It diffused the anxiety. Now I feel better..;))

Thanks (((Nettie)))

PeaJay

By Oiseau
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Hi PeaJay*

I'll read the article and join you in the discussion, it's one of great interest to me.

I have seen it work professionally and personally within family groups and with friends, actually de-activate bombs waiting to happen, emotionally that is!

See you later......I hope many join in! Great idea there girl, we need interest don't we?

*oiseau

By bandradzki
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Okay, here's another one.

One night, a torrential rain soaked South Louisiana; the next
morning the resulting floodwaters came up about 6 feet into
most of the homes there.

Mrs. Boudreaux was sitting on her roof with her neighbor, Mrs.
Thibodaux, waiting for help to come.

Mrs. Thibodaux noticed a lone baseball cap floating near the
house. Then she saw it float far out into the front yard,
then float all the way back to the house; it kept floating
away from the house, then back in.

Her curiosity got the best of her, so she asked Mrs.
Boudreaux, "Do you see that baseball cap floating away from
the house, then back again?"

Mrs. Boudreaux said, "Oh yes, that's my husband; I told him he
was going to cut the grass today come Hell or high water!"

Do I need to try, try again? LOL

Thanks for stoping by NEW714! Lots of neat places to stop in Third Age. Hope you will visit again.

Brenda

By Oiseau
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Can you place my face on Sabre's clown face?

I'm dying here.......my sides ache from the laughing!

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