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Born Before 1946? Tell Me About Your Saturn Return

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One of the predictable crises of older adult life is represented by the second Saturn return.  This astrological event occurs when you are around 56 to 60 years old as Saturn returns to the sign it was in when you were born.  For example, if you were born between mid-1946 and mid-1948, you're having your second Saturn return right now. Saturn is in Leo now, the same sign it was in when you were born.  Since Saturn stays in a sign for about two years, the second Saturn return lasts about that long.  It's called the second Saturn return because each person goes through an earlier Saturn return at the age of 28 to 30. 

So what is the second Saturn return supposed to be like and why might it be called a predictable crisis? 

It can be called a predictable crisis because Saturn is a planet that deals with reckoning.  Symbolically, the second Saturn return represents the natural process of reckoning that a person is supposed to undergo as he or she enters the third stage of life.  One reckons with one's past, and one reckons with one's future.  During this crisis, the past is supposed to appear un-fixable.  That is, one is intended to come to terms with the fact that what's happened has happened.  The marriage that didn't work out--didn't work out.  The career you didn't have--didn't happen. 

So much of the time we carry around baggage from the past because we have the vague idea that some day we'll get around to repairing it.  It's sort of like a junk drawer I have in my kitchen, where I stuff all sorts of miscellaneous small household items that I think I'll glue back together one day or buy new screws for or get replacement parts for.  I have junk in that drawer that's been there for years. I haven't repaired those small items because the truth is, I don't need to.  My life works just fine without them; it's only me that doesn't want to let go of something potentially fixable. 

People are like that with their lives.  They carry subconscious lists in their heads of things about their lives they're going to fix one day--but they never do.  They never do because these things don't need to be fixed.  The second Saturn return helps us come to terms with the things in our lives that are never going to get fixed and don't need to.  We may be sorry they broke in the first place, but it is of no use now carrying around the broken bits. 

In that sense, the second Saturn return can be a time of grieving for the life one intended to have but never quite got around to.  That sort of grieving can be termed both a predictable crisis and a catharsis--a path to emotional freedom. 

That's Saturn on the symbolic level, though. What I want to know is how people experience Saturn on a real life level.  I have heard people tell me they experienced their second Saturn return as a time of one difficult outside event after another.  For these people, the second Saturn return seems to bring events that are outside of one's conscious control--like the illness of a family member. 

Other people swear it is a time of manifestation--that they accomplished more during their Saturn return than ever before.  Some people say the second Saturn return is all the about the phrase "My God, how did I get to be so old?" Words like "senior citizen" have to be reckoned with in a personal way. 

One person told me his thoughts turned constantly to the idea that his life was getting shorter and shorter with every day that passed.  Another had a health crisis in which she was mistakenly told she was going to die within the next two years. 

I suppose the second Saturn return allows each individual to reckon with whatever is most relevant to him or her. Since some of the key words associated with Saturn are responsibility, authority, character, obstacles, discipline, aging, realism, ambition, accountability, conservatism, fear, structure, and the passage of time, I guess it's not too surprising that people experience things like fear of death, thoughts of time passing, accomplishments, or obstacles during the second Saturn return. 

Myself, I've been kicking around the idea that the second Saturn return is a portal to a new era in one's life.  During my first Saturn return, I realized for the first time that I wasn't going to die any time soon.  This was a surprise to me as I had lived out my youth with the subconscious idea that everything would be over soon and there was no need to live for tomorrow.  At around the age of thirty, I realized that life was long and actions have consequences.  That's Saturn's specialty--teaching one the consequences of one's actions.  The first Saturn return was a portal to sober adulthood.  Certain fantasies of youth died. 

Now I wonder if the second Saturn return doesn't have the opposite function. Maybe one realizes that life is short again.  Maybe one stops worrying all the time about the consequences of one's actions and starts living with a more youthful attitude.  I am reminded of something a woman who had just completed her Saturn return once told me: "Life is short.  Wear purple!"

What she meant was that she had outgrown the social inhibitions and concern with propriety that marked her adulthood.  She was "old" now and she was gonna wear whatever she damn well pleased.  Since Saturn is concerned with social conformity, I wonder if the second Saturn return doesn't open the door to freedom from the crushing weight of having to conform.    

I wonder if it opens the door to liberation from some of the fears that dog our adult lives, fears that we won't accomplish enough, fears that we're not fit enough, pretty enough, wealthy enough, smart enough or admired enough.  I see so many blog postings and articles and TV shows and magazine pieces and whatnot about how to improve oneself. Maybe the second Saturn return allows one to finally stop improving oneself and find meaning in who one already is.   

I don't know though. Maybe I'm being too optimistic. A friend of mine made me laugh the other day when he said emphatically, "It sucks."  He didn't try to put a happy or philosophical face on the second Saturn return at all! 

So...if you're 58 years old or older, and you are going through your Saturn return or remember what your life was like in the couple years before you turned 60--feel free to tell me what it was like.  Did it suck?  Did you have obstacles, crises, health problems, gloomy thoughts?  Was it a time of manifestation?  Was it a portal to a third stage of your life?  Did those years have an upside?  Did you learn anything? 

I'd love to hear your wisdom. 

Tony Uliano's picture
Oh, I could write a book. There's no easy way to condense my experiences at age 29-29 and what I'm experiencing now, approaching 58. I also get the double or triple whammy of having Saturn pass over my Pluto at the ascendant, before it reaches my Saturn, and also squaring 4 planets in various degrees of Taurus, including my sun. It's sort of a drawn out torture. Actually, I take Saturn very spiritually. It seems to have defined my life. I have learned to live with Saturn's spanks. It helps that it is in good aspect to my Mars and Uranus, possibly giving me the stamina or fortitude to withstand Saturn.
VictoriaBazeley's picture
Saturn going retrograde can affect the return in that Saturn may pass over its natal position again during the retrograde period and then pass over it yet again when the planet goes direct. If transiting Saturn is not going to pass over natal Saturn again, then the retrograde motion doesn't usually have much noticeable effect. Some people say that a planet has less effect when retrograde, but I've found the opposite to be the case. However, the shift from Saturn direct to retrograde is not usually hugely noticeable either way. The exception would be if it stations over the natal planet. That is usually felt quite intensely.
l ann's picture
saturn is retrograde and will be until mid april so how will thie affect return.
VictoriaBazeley's picture
Sharon - thanks for that interesting post. It got me thinking about Saturn in Leo and Jupiter in Sagittarius. Leo is a sign of performers and performance, maybe Saturn in that sign since mid '05 has created obstacles for you? Sagittarius is also a sign of performers, particularly theatrical performers. If Cancer is your Ascendant, perhaps Sagittarius is in your natal 6th house. Now that Jupiter's in Sag in good angle by sign to Saturn, perhaps things will start looking up. It may depend partly on exactly how the houses fall in your chart, but maybe, just maybe, you will get a spot of theatrical luck during this Jupiter cycle.
Sharon's picture
Victoria, the whole giving up on self-improvement that you write about really resonates with me. I, too, read many self-help books a few years back and finally decided that they weren't much help to me - that, for better or for worse, this is who I am. That decision was made at least five years ago (probably before the 2nd return). As far as the 2nd Saturn return: though my Saturn is in Cancer (my Ascendant), it falls in my 12th house. Perhaps this compounds Saturn's effects. In late March 2004, while working as an admin assistant, I became unemployed and remain so. Unable to find work, I eventually decided not to fight the tide, figuring no one wanted to hire a 60-year-old woman (no matter how good her skills may be). When benefits ran out, in November '04, I moved in with my daughter, son-in-law, and grandkids, losing some independence and privacy in the process. Late in December, I went to work as an actor (temporary by nature) for a professional theatre company and decided to become a candidate for Actors' Equity (the theatrical union). Since the show closed in January '05, I've been unable to get more acting work - in spite of some quite promising responses. A kidney infection (1st time ever) kept me from one call-back; a misunderstanding led to my not being cast for another role, etc. I'm still in the process of coming to terms with the fact that I may no longer act, thinking I may write, instead (though I have no resume when it comes to writing). I also finally let go of the notion of romantic love; if it exists at all, it doesn't exist for me. This one was a hard fight and a long time coming. I found your Neptune in Libra blog particularly helpful and informative in that regard. Sometimes it's a comfort knowing that the trials come not because I'm inadequate or doing something wrong, but because this is what I must do, this is what I must go through. A book (the name of which escapes me) I read in '97/'98 . . . when I was first exploring astrology has one of my favorite quotes (I may be paraphrasing, but unintentionally): "At the precise moment of your birth, the entire Universe conspired to create exactly what it needed; you are that creation." I often remind myself of that when I wonder what I may be doing wrong.
Gippy's picture
Whoa, I am so impressed with you all. What a great topic Victoria and thanks for the info. I don't know any of this, but I sure know now why I can't seem to get my artwork going once again! Sharon, you sound exactly like me!!! I am a visual artist (watercolor, acrylic, etc. mostly children and pet portraits). This is the ideal time for me to be making money selling my paintings, but it's really slow (word of mouth) and only a few because everytime I get all set up with paperwork, business cards, almost website etc., my health goes again and I have to have surgery. Each time, I think this is going to be it! And, I just escaped moving in with my daughter and family (although they are right down the street) because I had the roommate from h_ _ _! Friends for 30 years, we moved in together because of finances (the kids' idea). She went crazy literally and had to get help and moved out (she had mental problems but I thought they were resolved - oh well). Needless to say, I had to downsize again not having worked the last few years (as yourself) due to health problems. And now, like you, I wonder who would hire a 60 yr. old anyway? I might even have to give up my car just to maintain my independence. The kids would love to have me down the street and even have a room for me, but my dream is to paint, paint, paint to make enough money to make it with the independence I've always had. Now I find out it's Saturn's fault (lol), I finally have something to blame it on. Just having had my thyroid out, I am now going to try once again to get my artwork going - so wish me luck. I wish you luck also Sharon. I really do know how you feel. Gippy
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