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Is the Country on the Right Track?

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I don't know if you've noticed, but people in both parties are already vying to be elected President in 2008. Personally, I don't much care for any election season because I always feel that my TV starts drowning in negative ads during a campaign, and that kind of gets me down. But this past week or so, a couple of people asked me to do some research on stuff that's normally outside my area, mundane astrology or world events astrology. So I did the (minor) research and immediately jumped to the conclusion that whoever is elected in 2008 is going to have his or her hands full. I'll lay out a few thoughts and then you can tell me whether you think I'm crazy or whether the country is on the right track or whether there's going to be some kind of reckoning.

By late 2009, early in the next President's term, Saturn in Libra will be squaring Pluto in Capricorn. Squares are traditionally considered a "bad" aspect, and they're often thought to indicate conflict and miscommunication. Libra and Capricorn are both cardinal, leadership-type signs, so I suppose if you were to take that literally, a square between these two planets would indicate conflict and miscommunication between leaders.

Conflict between world leaders or even various branches of government is not particularly uncommon; in fact, it seems to go on all the time. In fact, conflict is an ongoing part of human life anyway. Still, I wasn't thrilled to see this aspect because Saturn and Pluto were in a bad mood with each other (opposition) during 2001, and 2001 was not a good year. Saturn and Pluto weren't in a particularly good mood with each other during 2002, either.

I don't know whether I am jumping to an unwarranted conclusion to think that the issues raised during the last meeting of Saturn and Pluto during 2001 and 2002 (September 11 and the invasion of Iraq) will be scheduled to come to some kind of new crisis point in 2009 or 2010. On the one hand, they may not. Who knows what will be happening on the world stage then? Maybe something else will have caught our attention.

On the other hand, it seems almost absurd to think that we'll manage to escape without some kind of new crisis point since neither of these situations has really been resolved. Osama bin Laden is still at large; Al Qaeda is still operating, and the violence in Iraq has not ceased. At some point, it seems we'll have to deal with these things.

But Saturn and Pluto are just the beginning. Uranus will edge into another cardinal sign, Aries, a rather aggressive cardinal sign at that, during 2010. By early 2011, we'll have three significant planets in cardinal signs and none of them are seeing eye to eye. This is a level of outer planet disharmony we haven't seen for awhile. By mid 2012, near the end of the next President's new term, Uranus and Pluto will be in exact square to each other.

This is the kind of aspect that doesn't come along too often. According to my quick search, the last time these two planets were in exact square was during the very worst of the Great Depression in 1932. Not a happy time.

This doesn't mean, obviously, that we'll have a replay of the Great Depression during 2012. As far as I know, history never repeats itself quite that exactly. Still, when Uranus and Pluto were conjunct in Virgo during the mid-1960s, the US began an economic downturn that culminated in spiraling inflation and eventually wage and price controls imposed by then President Nixon. Young people may not remember the economic woes of the early 1970s, but boomers should.

So what do you think? Is the US economy so fundamentally sound that significant economic troubles are out of the question? Or will deficits and other fiscal mismanagement catch up with us during the next President's term?

There are other possibilities of course. I did a quick and dirty count, and it appears to me that Uranus and Pluto will reach an exact square configuration 8 times over the course of about four years. That seems like an awful lot of times for two very energetic and powerful planets to be in an aspect of conflict.

What it makes me think is that...well, decisions have consquences. Pandora's box can be opened. In fact, the energy of Uranus square Pluto reminds me very much of Pandora's box, the metaphor being that of unleashing forces over which you have no real control or understanding.

The decisions world leaders have been making since 2001 or so will eventually play out and we'll see, I suppose, who made good decisions and who made bad ones. That's what I'm thinking these squares indicate, although I could be wrong. But it seems to me that decisions, political decisions, do have consquences, and that eventually those consequences must come to light.

These are global aspects, not aspects that affect the US specifically. I did read some commentary by a couple of astrologers who thought that the US chart would be particularly affected, but I'm not an expert on that.

What I am wondering instead, is whether or not the US leaders have been making good decisions (particularly with regard to terrorism and Iraq) over the past 5 or 6 years or whether they haven't. Are we on the right track? Will we escape unscathed during the next President's term and beyond, because we've been conducting our affairs with wisdom, prudence, and insight?

Or will we have holy hell to pay because we've been doing the opposite? I occasionally read polls that seem to indicate that a fairly hefty percentage of Americans now think it was a mistake to invade Iraq at all. An even larger percentage seem to be of the opinion that whatever the merits of the initial decision, the subsequent events have not been handled particularly well.

With so many Americans seeming rather unhappy with their leaders (particularly the current President I guess, although the recent Congressional elections indicated voters weren't particularly thrilled with their legislators either), it makes me wonder if we aren't due to reap some consequences of what our leaders have sown.

What do you think? Do you think the upcoming aspects indicate that at some point we must all face the realities our leaders are currently creating?

Do you think they mean nothing at all? Do you think they mean something else entirely? Do you think our country is on the right track?

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Len's picture
I'm not American, but those predictions you've made are pretty obvious, don't need the reference to the planets to justify them either... after all, what we do today will always have an impact on what happens tomorrow.
Jude Rossi's picture
Mama's Fish House? By Hookipa surfers beach? LOL @ Carsick...yeah, the high winding along the cliffs Hana Road is famous for that. But, I am surprised that you, luz, Wise Woman of the Woods, would get sick out there. I would think you would be so in awe of the jungles that it would transcend all else! You must have been driving too fast..like over 15 mph!! How long ago was this? The Hana Road has been paved.
luz's picture
my final trip? hmmmm. i think my final trip would be where i grew up home - santa barbara. and the santa ynez river. that river runs in my blood. my family knows that when i die i wish to be cremated and have my ashes scattered all along camino cielo - the road along the ridge of mountains that frame the santa barbara area. this way my ashes can wash to the sea or the river. but, i know what you mean about flying into maui - the pacific islands are benevolent and healing, too. i have been over to the north shore and eaten at that fabulous restaurant that is on the beach...yummy seafood and great drinks, too. my daughter and i drove to hana and were headed all down the coast but we got carsick from the curvy road.lol.
Jude Rossi's picture
luz....the next time you come to Maui, we will have to take a boat ride or something!! Let me know! :) Yes, the banyon tree is fantastic. It looks like a forest of trees, but all those other "trees" are really the same one tree. They celebrate its birthday every year...I think it is like 120 now. It was planted by the Baldwins..first missionaries. I live on the other side from Lahaina..the north shore side. Away from the tourist scene. But I too love to go over to Lahaina..or out to Hana. Did you ever go to Hana? 100 waterfalls on the way through the jungles. I love Maui like I love a person. And I can't be away from her too long without pining. I would simply wither and die if I had to leave and go live in the cold again. Maui would always be on my mind. When I have to go to the mainland, I simply can't wait to get home. I get so excited when the plane circles for its landing, and I can see beloved Maui below. I can spot my trees and my house! NO PLACE LIKE HOME! You didn't say where you would go for your final trip. ??
Jude Rossi's picture
Sunny..we were in HongKong for a two day stopover.. It is an awesome place...like NONE other. Busy, ultra, metropolitan, colorful, neon and strange things!! I would have liked to have spent more time but it was business. No sightseeing. I have a friend who is an International Financial Consultant for IBM...for many years. He fluently speaks 9 languages, and can manage in about 20 more. He has been EVERYWHERE, and many times. His FAVORITE place in the world is Hong Kong. I don't know that it would be my FAVORITE place, but it is quite a city. Yes, Frankie...THAT Adventures in Paradise. Nothing wrong with your memory YET!! KonTiki, though. Close enough! Do you watch LOST now? It is filmed here. Speaking of Oprah...she bought 145 acres and a house here on Maui a year or so ago. I've not met her, but she is here a few times a year. Mostly goes to the house that sits on an oceanside cliff in the jungle and hangs out. Many celebrities have homes here. They rear their families here; their kids go to school here. We've known Willy Nelson and Kris Kristofferson for years and years. Kris married a girl he met here, too. They go out and about living their lives like anyone else here. Very involved in fund raising and doing things for Maui, too. It is not unusual to see Paris, Brittney, Cameron Diaz, Justin Timberlake, etc etc shopping or whatever. Last week we ran into old Richard Chamberlin at the vets. The Hollywood people like it here because it is so laid back; no one bothers them, and it is the closest paradise to LA. About the critters, Sunny...there are NO critters in Hawaii that will kill you. And NO snakes in Hawaii. There are things that will give you a really nasty bite...like the Mighty Centipede, but it isnt lethal. (Of course, even a bee stink will kill some folks...or resulting infections.)
luz's picture
boy, i can sure tell how thrilled y'all are when it comes to talking about the political future of our country. it's exasperating!! and i'm with you frank - oprah would make a great president because she doesn't hesitate to consult with the experts in a situation - meaning, all those involved - from grassroots folks to techies. also, she picked africa for her leadership school for the very reason you state, jude. however, she's incredibly compassionate and astute and continues to provide support to americans and individuals in our country. the economic and healthcare issues in our country are appalling. it is going to take more than just one president to effect lasting changes. for example. i live 5 miles from the nearest town here in southern oregon which has a population of less than 2000....and still, on any given day there are about 20 homeless people on the street in town. several or maybe even all of them mutter and talk to themselves and demonstrate unstable behaviour. it could be the meth. or they are mentally ill. but where do they come from? new one's appear every few weeks. i suspect the hospitals or the jails from outside the area are dumping them here because there are just too many per capita to be coming from the local population. now they are far away from services. and, this community does not have any policing or sheriffs. also, in a few weeks all of the county libraries in this county and the next are closing due to lack of monies. its a gnarly mess. i love it here, though. the weather is fairly mild for the pacific northwest because we are in a banana belt. it can freeze for a while in winter....and we had a foot of snow this winter which is unusual. it get's pretty hot in summer......aaahhh....but that is what maui is for....i can go there to hang out at the beach or sit under the banyan tree in lahaina. i can really see why you live there, jude.
Sunnygirl's picture
Wow Frank and Jude, all this talk about travelling makes me want to go on vacation! My dream vacation? I don't know - someplace that people don't usually think of. Hong Kong has always intrigued me for some reason. I love pictures from tropical islands - but I hate creatures! Right now we have caterpilars crawling around. know they're harmless but I can't stand them. When it comes to climates, I'm like you two - I don't like cod weather. Right now the temps are in the 80s but they will drop to the 60s by this weekend - just in time for Easter and the Masters finale this weekend. In spite of all the problems America has, most of us do have it better than we would in other countries.
Frank Binetti's picture
Jude, was that Adventure's in Paradise with Garner McKay aboard the ConTiki? If I'm right I remember the opening of the show with the ship cutting through the water. You are lucky to be living your dream. I don't want to paint such a bad picture of my life, it's not fair to the loving people who are a part of it. True, I would love to live in a warm climate near the ocean but I can't be selfish. My children deserve to finish their education here where they grew up and both my wife and my parents are very ill. Not a good time to move to paradise, and honestly although I hate the climate CT is relatively safe from natural disasters. Last night I said to my wife, "What would happen if you woke up and I told you we were rich, that we hit the lottery" all she could say was that her mommy was dying. She is so taken with the situation her parents are in that she can't imagine enjoying a happier life with more opportunities to have fun. I don't think I'll ever make it to Hawaii, but I sure hope to explore the possibility of relocating to a southern coastal state in a few years. I remember the first time I went to Daytona Beach as a little boy, feeling the squeeky clean sand beneath my feet and the warm clear water in front of me was a quite a change from the dirty sand and cold polluted water of my Bronx, NY beach.
Jude Rossi's picture
It is a sad thing to hate where you live, Frankie...and to be trapped by circumstances. For me it was the old Aventures in Paradise, and Elvis' Blue Hawaii that made me know that I was going to go to Hawaii, and LIVE here. I plotted my course for years. The first time I came, I stepped out of the plane door out on the tarmac, felt Maui embrace me, and I knew I had come home.
Frank Binetti's picture
Jude, I was alright with the brown recluse spiders and saltwater crocs, even the great white sharks would not have stopped me from visiting Australia, but are you familiar with the new species of box jellyfish? Scientists have discovered several hundred species around Australia and the Indian Ocean, these tiny marine animals some of which are the size of a peanut can either kill you or put you in a hospital for many weeks in agonizing pain. No thanks! Very interesting story about Mr. Fleetwood. As a kid I loved to watch the program "Hawaiian Eye" and as an adult "Magnum P.I." showed some of that beautiful Hawaiian scenery. Weather here in CT today, heavy rain and temps in the forties. I hate it here!
Jude Rossi's picture
Nope, Frankie..I do NOT find the idea of the Pacific Islands boring! That is exactly why I made my way here, and chose to remain for my lifetime. I, too, LOATHE cold weather. I'll tell you a story about Australia. Mick Fleetwood from Fleetwood Mac lives here on Maui, and he is a friend. One night we gathered out on the terrace and he was telling us about some of the things he's done. One of them was he bought a big old English type estate in Australia, sight unseen, except for pictures. The time came when he finally had time to go there, and claim his residency. The caretaker took him into the kitchen, and there were about 25 glass jars of various sizes sitting there. They were full of critters. The guy told Mick, "These are some of the species that can be found on your land...and these are the ones you need to know because these are the ones that can kill you!" Mick said he and his entourage didn't even unpack!! He left, and eventually sold the place. He still loves Australia and its raw, rough beauty, but doesn't want to live there!
Frank Binetti's picture
Jude, you would probably find this very boring because you live in a paradise but most of my life I've thought about Tahiti. I really like the warmth of the sun, clear warm ocean water and the romance of a tropical isle. I almost went to a Club Med on Bora Bora but after I met my wife to be at a Club Med on Paradise Island in the Bahamas, my traveling days were over. I used to think Australia would be a great adventure but it's just too dangerous. Europe holds nothing of interest for me and I can't stand the cold. I like your idea, it's romantic and has a hint of intrigue. If I die at the end of this final voyage my last request would be a burial at sea, what better place than those waters and with any luck my spirit would live again in the sharks that feast on my body!
Jude Rossi's picture
Awwww, Frankie..this isn't as much fun unless you spat with me!! If you could visit only one more place in the world that you have never been, where would you go for this final voyage? I would like to ride the Orient Express through the Alps/austria/ etc. Like is used to be in the Golden Age of Rail travel. Formal dinners, etc. I have always intended to do this...but it just seems like so much work to get there from here.
Frank Binetti's picture
No argument there Jude. Powerful people sending Americans off to die or get disabled in iraq, the rising cost of fuel, electricity, food and just about everything else makes it tough to stay hopeful.
Jude Rossi's picture
Well, maybe SOME kids have too much...but even just right here in Hawaii are thousands of homeless, and hungry. All over America are homeless and hungry families. And pitiful old folks. And look at how our vets are being treated...the miserable hospitals, etc etc etc. We need to HEAL our own country. There are hundreds of issues HERE that need fixed first. Starting with the voting system. America is certainly NOT the shining star it once was..getting dimmer every day.
Frank Binetti's picture
President bush has spent hundreds of billions of our dollars on the war in iraq, while children in africa are butchered. I wouldn't mind a few billion spent to help the children in africa, and I do agree that many of our own children have way too much material wealth and far too little appreciation. While the children in africa are struggling to stay alive, our children are being desensitized by the internet including "youtube" and garbage on tv such as "south park".
Jude Rossi's picture
Well, Oprah might decide to spend her four year rebuilding Africa with America's asset. She essentially said our kids had attitude, and the African kids were more appreciative.
Sunnygirl's picture
Frank and Jude - two excellent choices. I don't know which one is better! Both of them have an infinite (it seems) amount of love, generosity and acceptance. Neither of them would sit on their butts in the Oval Office and make rules that affect people whose lives they know nothing about. They have been there. They have visited and helped people all over the world. They have spent THEIR money to make lives better. And is anybody else tired of rising gas prices? Frank, I went to a church with teachings similar to yours. I left and found another church and I am so much happier. The sermons help with going through life and if we have questions, we have several opportunities throughout the week to ask questions in group settings or we can ask the minister one-on-one for an explanation. My church does allow women to hold positions. I like your explanation of equality. I don't think our country is on the right track. I have a problem with us sending our soldiers to Iraq to risk their lives when I can drive to work and see at least 20 homeless people. We spend all this money to keep our loved ones over there when there is so much to be done here. We have seniors who are choosing between food and medication because they don't have enough money. Last I heard, New Orleans is still not back up to par. In my area, homeless shelters have to turn people away. I hope we will get on the right track soon.
Frank Binetti's picture
My choice would be Oprah! Although she is extremely wealthy, she comes from very humble roots. She understands many important issues facing our country, and has helped many individuals and families through her tv progam and generosity. We need to break up the boys club that has run this country into the ground. Personally I don't think supporting a president who does not serve the will of the people is anything to be proud of. Our presidents who kept us in Vietnam all those years were no heroes in my eyes. I respect president bush as the leader of our country, but I firmly disagree with many of his policies including our involvement in iraq and his position on stem cell research. I think our country would benefit by having a powerful woman in charge. Just to let you all know a bit more about me, I used to be a member of the Catholic Church but after sitting through sermons such as "wives should obey their husbands" and "Divorce is evil and so are people who get divorced" I decided to leave. I think the world would be a much safer place for women if they were treated with equality and allowed to hold all positions of power in the Catholic Church. Equalilty does not negate the wonderful things that make men and women different, but rather celebrates with dignity the wonderful things they share.
Jude Rossi's picture
Friends...IF you could choose ANY person, any person at all, to be president, who would it be, and why? I choose Billy Graham. He is one of few TOTALLY good men left on corrupted Planet Earth. He has stood beside every president for the last 60 years. If he couldn't lead us out of this broken down stink we find ourselves in, no one could.
kristin crawford's picture
no this country is not on the right track. We need to slove our own problems before we slove other countries problems but it dosen't happen that way.
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