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Working With Difficult Pluto Transits

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A reader wrote in to ask if there's a way to work with difficult Pluto transits rather than against them.  There are ways, and I'll use this space to mention a few of the ones you don't hear about too often.  People undergoing difficult Pluto transits right now are people born near the end of the sun signs Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, and Pisces.  People with natal planets (like the Moon) in the late degrees of these signs are also in the midst of difficult Pluto transits.  People with planets in the late degrees of Aries and Leo are undergoing easier Pluto transits. People in their early 40s are undergoing transits to natal Pluto in Virgo or will be soon.  That's a lot of people affected by Pluto!

So...what can a person do to work with Pluto energy instead of against it? I don't have all the answers, but here are a few thoughts. 

1.  Figure out what the heck the purpose of the transit is and start implementing it immediately.  How do you figure out what the purpose of the transit is? 

Sometimes it's obvious because your insides are screaming with it.  "Get out of this marriage!!!" your miserable soul shouts at you.  "Get a different job; this one is killing you!" your gut keeps growling at you.  And so on. 

Pluto transits are so often about giving things up.  Often they're about giving up things you don't want to give up because it will be scary or difficult to do so.  A limiting friendship, a business partnership, a career, a home, a way of approaching life, a romantic attachment that will never work, a toxic relationship with a parent or sibling.  There are an awful lot of things in life that a normal person doesn't want to give up even though they're not good for him or her.  Pluto tries to force us to give them up. 

If you can't immediately tell what the purpose of your Pluto transit is by sheer instinct, move on to figuring it out astrologically.  My method is to look first at the house of the planet being squashed by Pluto.  Transiting Pluto squaring your natal sun in the 7th house--most likely Pluto is taking aim at your relationships.  What he's usually trying to do is smash up your relationship template like a dinner dish. 

IIt might be helpful to know why Pluto does this. In my experience, Pluto does this because your old templates are standing in the way of what you really want, the things you dream of.  You don't necessarily realize this at the time (or at least I don't), but Pluto does.  An unhealthy attachment to your aging mother might seem like a source of support and validation of your caring nature to you.  To Pluto, it might seem like the thing that holds you back from real physical and romantic connection with people of your own age.  Although what you have may feel like love, it may hold you back from the love you really want and are capable of experiencing.  You may not realize that you're finally ready for a mature romantic love--but Pluto does. 

If looking at the astrological houses doesn't help you analyze the purpose, look at the planets involved and then the signs.  Transits to the sun, for example, often involve an update of identity or role in life.  They very often have to do with a deep inner sense of purpose. 

Sometimes Pluto purposes are kind of abstract, so don't feel you have to figure out some deep meaning to work with them. I recall having Pluto conjunct a planet in my 9th house once.  The 9th house governs one's philosophy of life. I couldn't believe I would be experiencing Pluto distress over something as simple as my philosophy of life.  Besides, I liked my philosophy of life. I thought my problem was related to my father or overwork or deep issues or the jerk in my life who was driving me crazy.  Then one day I was bitching and moaning and whining about my Pluto transit when I heard myself say "My philosophy has always been blah, blah, blah."  The person I was with then snapped (in a rather brutal way) "And that's wrong then, isn't it?  Because other people aren't always going to approach things as nicely as you do." 

Bingo!  The light went on. My freaking philosophy of life was wrong.  I actually started crying at that moment because I knew I was finally getting it, what Pluto was on about.  I updated my philosophy of life to take into account that no, other people aren't always going to share my "nice" approach. Pluto stopped bothering me almost immediately.  What a relief! So don't overlook the obvious. 

2. Pluto's lessons often have to do with the reality that other people can be bad, wicked, evil, unhealthy, toxic, or morally bankrupt.  I've come across many astrologers who swear that Pluto transits are always a manifestation of one's shadow self, and that we are always just projecting our own bad qualities on to others when we have a difficult time with someone during a Pluto transit.  I'm tempted to acknowledge that this may be true on a deep level, but what I'll actually say is that's bull. 

Sometimes Pluto doesn't give a flip about your shadow self.  Sometimes Pluto just wants you to get it through your thick head that someone else's behavior is morally unacceptable and you should stop accepting it.  Pluto is the most intensely moralistic planet there is.  Pluto believes in right and wrong.  The rest of us think we do and sometimes feel guilty (often for good reason) about our judgmental sides.  But in reality, our sense of morality is much more ambiguous.  Yeah, Mom's a thief, Dad's a child molester, and our siblings are sociopaths. 

But...we kind of don't look at it that way.  The situation seems so much more subtle and nuanced because we're in the thick of things.  We have attachments.  Attachments that fog up our moral compasses.  We accept things because we don't want to give up our attachments, ego-based ones and otherwise.  So even though the husband, wife, lover, boss, or best friend has betrayed you umpteen times and made it behaviorally clear that he or she feels no moral obligation to treat you with respect--you hang in there.  Then finally Pluto gets fed up with this, steps in, and essentially says "I will make your life miserable until you finally cut the damn toxic cord.  Enough already. Get a clue!"

You can really speed up the difficult aspects of a Pluto transit by getting in touch with your primal sense of morality.  Cut out the ambiguity that Pluto doesn't acknowledge as valid any longer, and just make a bold and definitive acknowledgement of your moral compass.  "Such and such behavior is unacceptable to me and I will not tolerate it any longer." (It can be behavior that took place in the past, by the way. Sometimes Pluto likes to brood over past injustices.) Clearly identify what you believe is right and what you believe is wrong.  This is one of the most effective and under-utilized tricks I know of to tame Pluto. 

3. Understand the role of emotions like bitterness and hatred. Pluto is the patron saint of bitterness and hatred. When Pluto gets mad, he doesn't just get mildly peeved, he taps into a primal well of hatred and rage. Naturally, this scares the living heck out of us mere mortals.  Very few things scare us like Pluto on a rampage, and the really scary thing is finding all the hatred and rage inside oneself (it can happen).  Most of us are pretty much convinced that we'll kicked out of society and left to starve if we experience or express the hatred, rage, and bitterness that Pluto blithely embraces. Yet we all have it.  So we might as well know what Pluto's got in mind. 

What Pluto has in mind is that hatred can be cleansing and protective. Hatred, in Pluto's decidedly unusual lexicon, is the ultimate moral emotion. Hatred and bitterness are the emotions that tell us that something is so wrong, so hurtful, so against the laws of human decency that only furious rejection will save our souls.  Think of a kidnapping victim who sustains herself with hatred of her captors.  That hatred is the last bulwark of her integrity, her inviolate self.  Victims who don't generate hatred become entangled with their victimizers and subtly began to adopt their values and beliefs. This is usually called the Stockholm Syndrome and it doesn't just apply to hostages. It applies to workers in punitive corporations, people in abusive marriages, and everyone else who comes to subtly accept their own victimization by believing that it's okay.   

Hatred is not a politically correct emotion, and probably never will be.  But Pluto's not a politically correct planet.  Pluto hates things that are fundamentally wrong, and he has no intention of changing his mind about that. During a Pluto transit, you can safely (usually, if you keep your head) tap into your own hatred and in the process cleanse your soul.  Sounds a bit high-falutin' but my goodness I've seen it happen with almost miraculous results.  Pluto is not the planet of rebirth for nothing.  Rebirth, it appears, is not pretty--but it sure is impressive. 

4. Cry.  Literally. Pluto doesn't just hate the things that are wrong in your life (even if they're not as dramatic as what I've described), he grieves. He grieves for all that you've missed, all that could have been, for time wasted, for hurts endured, for things that can't be taken back, for losses sustained, and for goodness knows what else.  Pluto is the ultimate grieving planet. Sometimes, you've just got to grieve with him.  Just cry it out.  The things you have to grieve may seem very small--petty insults, annoying obstacles, personal character flaws; or very large--deaths, disasters, and losses of gigantic proportion.  Large or small, though, they're yours. You owe them the dignity of a bit of grief.     

Pluto's ultimate aim is to take what used to work in your life but doesn't any more--and get rid of it.  Whether it's an attitude, a habit, a person, a situation, a place, or something else--the sooner you are willing to work to get rid of what's no longer functional, the sooner Pluto will reward you. 

And Pluto does dish out some pretty handsome rewards when he's done torturing you.  So you might think of what you most desire and set your mind towards the idea that if you can fulfill your Pluto task, you just might get it. 

Lia11's picture
One year on from Pluto I can say there is life after. It went over my Sun in Sag. I feel a lot better now, but it does take time to assimilate all changes. I have one friend left from before Pluto. Necessary overhaul of my life. I am grateful to Pluto. I am beginning to feel excited about opportunity to create my life for my self in a way I never have, having always put others first. It feels very strange but good. I can sympathise with the person going through it at 60. Mine was 50. But better late than never. I feel sad for people who never get this opportunity, even though it has been 18 months of no reference points. It is worth it. I wonder about the people who seem to go through Pluto transits with no observable changes. Mostly men I've seen. Do they not need it? Or are they out of touch? I thought I knew myself, then came Pluto. Now I am getting to know myself at a much deeper level. and it's wonderful. I can see why some astrologers say you can feel the transit up to 5 degrees. That would be about 5 years. I didn't want to admit it would be that long, but with Pluto you have to be in it for the long haul. Good luck all you Pluto people. You will come through, and you'll love it, it will all be worth it. Hang on in there. This too shall pass. And lead you on to something much more authentic and satisfying for you.
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You described exactly what I`m passing through. Pluto square moon transit started this month and you are really helping me to understand what I have to do. I know I have to let go a friend that means to me too much to describe it in words. She is practically half of my hart. But she changed a lot and all thou she is OK with me she doesn´t fulfill what I call real friendship. I have also uranus conjuntion moon and saturn opposition moon is going to hit me in a month, so it is going to be a difficult time and reading this article made me understand It is even batter having this transit to get rid of some things that aren´t right in my life. I just hope that nothing else will have to happened to understand the lesson I have to learn.
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Excellent article, one of the best I've read about Pluto transits. I've got Pluto approaching my Ascendant right now and it will be there for 2 years. I already see the types of issues I need to work on but I sure wish I didn't have to deal with this stuff at the age of almost 60!
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I'm going through pluto opposition moon transit, and I can totally relate to what you said in this article. This article is brilliant and to the point. I love it!
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Something else has just hit me, from re-reading your article. What you say about others' behaviour rings so true. Because I have a compassionate nature, I have attracted friends who take that for granted. I hear from them when they need something - be it something practical,or emotional support, and then they just disappear when they've got what they need. One friend in particular (a Scorpio!) is notorious for it. She will drain me of every ounce of sympathy I've got, and I end up feeling like a sponge full of dirty water. If I contact her for something I need, she doesn't reply. I've let her get away with this for years. I've finally got wise to it, and I'm not playing along with it any more, and I'm working to cut the cord.
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Hi Victoria, I've come to this article and blog rather late, but obviously when I needed to see it! I'm going through an exact Pluto opposite Sun at the moment (Pluto transiting in the 8th opposite a second house Cancer Sun)and I wanted to share some of the experiences with others in the hope that it will help. During this transit - which started to make itself felt when Pluto was still in late Sagittarius - I fell deeply, instantly in love with someone who is as remote from me as it's possible to be. It remains unrequited, it's intensely painful, and has caused me to cry like never before, like my insides are coming outside. But it's also made me feel more gloriously alive, and more intensely passionate, than any supposed "real" relationship ever has. I'm also noticing - more and more strongly, because I've been ignoring them (and you don't ignore Pluto!) calls to ditch behaviour patterns which are limiting, chief of which is my ability to beat myself up and feel I'm not worth loving. Sun in the 2nd is about self love and self worth, and it's a hard slog to get out of that habit of putting everyone else first and not me. That makes me sound like a saint, and I'm not, but I am a very giving person and I don't feel I deserve much back. That's changing, it's having to. Pluto opposite my Sun on occasions is making me feel like I have lost a few layers of skin - or have no skin at all - like my internal organs are visible. Like everyone can see every ounce of fear, fright, and love inside me. Being a Cancerian there are issues about shells which are very obvious - how tough they are, and how fiercely self protective I've become. It's certainly broken down the barriers to my heart. I do feel Pluto in this transit is helping to break down what is no longer appropriate, whilst helping me to shore up where I don't protect myself enough. If this is happening to you too, hang in there. It's like a roller coaster ride, and I don't do those, being scared of heights, and scared of being scared. This one leaves you no choice. What isn't appropriate, will go, it will be broken down. I'm beginning to think, I'm looking forward to what will emerge, what new "me" will regenerate from all this.
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Hello I am only a girl in her late teens undergoing a not exact yet but already felt pluto (going into 4th and joining the IC very soon!) transit: square my sun and mercury in 12th trining my jupiter in the 11th. It's been hell this last year. A family member commited suicide, I had a gut feeling he would but never followed my instincts. I am extremely confused and can't stop thinking I am somehow a "flawed" person that needs to be dissected and turned into something better, only it's not working and I tried so hard... Then I realized I was just letting myself be victimized by people by letting them turn me into things. This was due to a lack of self-love, I looked for it in others, becoming a sort of "glove to fit them", I ended up losing myself trying to please them. Now I'm angry and feel like I've been smacked out of a dream. I try to accept my negative traits but it's too painful. The list goes on and the : you are disgusting, you are a bad person: LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO PEOPLE? YOU EVIL BITCH. I can't get it out of my head and it's hurting me as well. all I say every day in my head is : someone help me, save me, god help me. I have never felt as crappy as I feel these days. I felt like I was watching myself get crazy and it's a scary feeling. I even picked up a nail and scratched my wrist in compulsion. I realized what I did a minute later and went to sleep thinking: you NEED help...but where? How?
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Victoria I can't thank you enough for this article. I've been, as my user name suggests, scared stiff of the current Pluto transit, as I have Mercury at 1 degree in Aries (Sun 4 degrees/NNode 7degrees) 8th house, Uranus at 1 degree Cancer (progressed MC 5 degrees) 11th house and Mars at 1 degree Libra (Progressed Ascendant 4 degrees/SNode 7degrees) 2nd house. I've been in a total rut for ages now in relation to ALL areas of my life and I've just been told by my daughter (only child) that I will no longer see her or her children ever again. This is the result of a power struggle between her husband, who is making her and her childrens' lives hell, and I. I love them all dearly and am totally devastated and profoundly depressed with it all. Her decision has also made me realise that I was making her life hell too, much as I helped her at every turn. This situation has forced me to take a hard look at myself and it's been very hard to say the least. It has made me realise that I have to buck up and make many changes in my life/lifestyle such as changing my attitude, moving house, choosing a new career and looking after my health. More than anything it has highlighted that I should have let go of my daughter before I was forced to. I can only hope that that when Pluto triggers these planets from 1 degree Capricorn things will be in the process of improving. Once again thanks for this article Victoria. I can't tell you how much it has enlightened me and more than anything given me an idea as to how I can handle this.
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Thank you so much for this article. My Jupiter is 28 Sag, so I am feeling Pluto big time. I was feeling very weepy earlier tonight and your article resonated with me so profoundly that I know that it was part of my Pluto message, especially what you wrote about philosophy of life. Pluto has been transiting my 9th house. So wild to refer back to '95 or so, when I was a Presbyterian minister's wife...now long ago divorced and spiritually light years different. What I realized I still needed to do was "GET" this business of philosophy of life as well as the piece about some people just being truly awful. How's this for Pluto pushing me to get the lesson? My mother died on July 2 - Pluto was opposing her 29 Gem sun. Since then my grief has been compounded by the reality of the toxicity of my family members and her so-called friends. It has been *exactly!* as you described in the part about needing to feel that hatred. In May I completed the Hoffman Quadrinity Process (I highly recommend it!), a fabulous personal growth seminar and now that I think about it, quite Plutonian in intensity. There is one experience that focuses on vindictiveness and releasing it...which involves truly tapping into the stored hatred and physically expressing it. I absolutely loved it and took the opportunity to beat on the stuffed figure that represented my psychopathic brother, who essentially destroyed my family. This article crystallized this knowing, this reality that the family is full of truly deeply unhealthy, toxic people and I had this attachment to the notion of 'family.' So much for that idea. For years they either blamed me for their dysfunction or I spent all kinds of time and money agonizing over my seemingly endless shadow...what Victoria says makes complete sense to me and it resonates deep in my body. The grand finale of the 9th house transit is to GET that some people are truly screwed up, that I need to admit and accept this reality and not take on their crap and that this is also related to my life philosophy, which many people don't share. I'd been thinking the 9th house thing was all about spirituality and I hadn't been including this very important feature...which explains my great frustration at meeting various New Age-y types who turned out to be downright cruel in spite of all their 'love and light' business. I can see now how it's all part of Pluto in action. It was just such a relief to read this article and to not feel so alone. Pluto has been taking away a lot lately and I have been doing my best to let go...I learned about the power of Pluto when it was in Scopio, conjunct my 8th house Scorpio moon. OUCH! That's what got me into astrology...It helps to not feel so alone and once again, astrology helps me to understand what's going on and that somehow helps to ease the pain and frustration.
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First thank you Victoria for your excellent article and blog. It has helped me immensely. Here is my question: I am Sun 28 degrees Sag. I was hoping to miss the last hit of Pluto as it isn't going back as far as my exact position. But no. I wondered if you found this to be the case, even if Pluto doesn't go back as far as the exact position, do you still feel it? I think I do, although much more subtle. No dramas, just dead calm, stillness. I feel tired, heavy. My friends say I am "intense", what friends I have left that is after 18 months of Pluto on my Sun. What else would I be but intense with Pluto? I am happy in my intensity. Here is my next question: the rug has been pulled out from under me. Everything feels different, the old is gone, the new has not yet come in. I feel a little anxious and impatient as a Sag. I had started to feel so much better when Pluto moved into Capricorn. I guess I'm wanting reassurance from your experience that there is better life after Pluto, how long does it take??? And how do you see the final 'hit' comparing to the previous ones? Many thanks for your time and astute observations.
Lia11's picture
First thank you Victoria for your excellent article and blog. It has helped me immensely. Here is my question: I am Sun 28 degrees Sag. I was hoping to miss the last hit of Pluto as it isn't going back as far as my exact position. But no. I wondered if you found this to be the case, even if Pluto doesn't go back as far as the exact position, do you still feel it? I think I do, although much more subtle. No dramas, just dead calm, stillness. I feel tired, heavy. My friends say I am "intense", what friends I have left that is after 18 months of Pluto on my Sun. What else would I be but intense with Pluto? I am happy in my intensity. Here is my next question: the rug has been pulled out from under me. Everything feels different, the old is gone, the new has not yet come in. I feel a little anxious and impatient as a Sag. I had started to feel so much better when Pluto moved into Capricorn. I guess I'm wanting reassurance from your experience that there is better life after Pluto, how long does it take??? And how do you see the final 'hit' comparing to the previous ones? Many thanks for your time and astute observations.
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I have to be honest and say I skimmed most of the replies because the gist for me, and the lead article are so accurate I just had to start writing immediately. I've got Sun at 26'Sagittarius (Mercury close after), in the 12th House. So I've got a bit of Galactic Central thing going on at the same time as this Pluto on my Sun thing. IT'S AGONY! I've studied astrology since I was a kid, but nothing can prepare you for this transit. Perhaps because it's in my 12th House it feels like it's virtually impossible to describe. It's like all the above at once, but I'm incredibly alone with it. It's the ultimate being alone and facing death and pain trip. It's like no-one understands my language, or conveniently omits certain sentences. People's hypocrisy is horribly obvious. No-one whose duty it should be to be supportive (in a reciprocal sense) wants to go there, and those that would go there I don't want to be a burden to, as a matter of honour. Death and cancer keep appearing around me, mocking ghosts. Crying? Yes, a good deal of that. Anger? Yes , but all on my own, so it's transmuted into a deep, inexpressable frustration. The only 'strength' I feel I'm gaining from it is a severe reminder (of something I thought I'd already had to learn)a lesson that I have to face life alone, and death alone and a grim feeling of self-reliance. Every disappointment, every 'sin', every betrayal, every failure, all compounded in my present life situation. Yes along with the pain (physical and emotional) comes the objective pain of seeing the overall injustice , feeling powerful, yet being powerless to convey anything that will change the situation. Well actually, I seem to have found, by finding this site, at least some people who do/are/can understand what I'm going through, because every time I return to ANY section of it, it's like people are speaking for me.
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Sorry for the very long previous post, but as I think that my past and present experiences are very illustrative I hope that it can help others understand that most definitely we win when we loose and vice-versa, but we have to be willing and open to read the signals and maybe even get ahead of the changes and cooperate with Pluto by promoting those changes ourselves. I have been having some very strange and prophetic (in a way) dreams, never before in my life have I been that open and sensitive. Starting July, Pluto will again conjunct my Moon, not only that but on August 28th there will be the total Lunar Eclipse, the Sun will be conjunct my natal Pluto of 2nd house and opposite my natal Chiron of 8th house, just after the Sun being conjunct my natal North Node and the moon touching my South Node. Ever since I realised that there'll be that eclipse I have been having these strange dreams. Could anyone help me shed some light on the meaning of the next approaching Lunar Eclipse?
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I've just found this blog when I was actually looking for something on transiting Sun conjunct natal Pluto. As a 9 degrees Gemini I have already experienced Pluto opposite my Sun and when it happened it really didn't make itself wait to be exact: at 3 of Sag. my father passed away in March 96, between 98 and 2000 I had to face some very serious challenges to assert my authority and then finally in May 2000 my godfather also died. Nowadays I realise to what extent my father was a manipulative, controlling and tyrannical person, I mourned him awfully but later, when I allowed myself to put on my glasses, you know those with the Plutonian lenses (yes, those that take away your over idealised concepts), realised that he never quite allowed anyone around him to grow on their own rights as individuals so egocentric he had been all his life, and as for my godfather, to whom I expected to be able to transfer my love and attention after my father's passing, revealed himself to be extremely judgemental and full of prejudices and not that receptive vessel for my love that I'd expected him to be but again this was revealed to me after his passing when someone finally told me why he'd done what he did which had disappointed and hurt greatly. Now I'm having Pluto conjunct to my natal Moon, very succinctly: I had to broke up a very long term relationship which I procrastinated for a couple of years, it was tough sacrifice but it was not going anywhere. I had to close down my family's business which meant both mine and my family's security in a way. I had to sell my flat to pay off debts and move out of a terrible situation in which I could have lost my last reserves and assets, also the sale of my home meant dismantling it and everything I loved so dearly so that I could move on and finance my move to another country and try to build a new life. I guess it is a good thing to mention that I've got a 6th house Moon so that means my daily life and job perspectives had been disrupted, even my beloved cat contracted an awful liver disease and died before I could even think of bringing him with me to this other country. In moving to another country I also had to cut the umbilical cord with my daughter and it's been really tough, but Pluto understood that it had to be done as she has refused to grow up all these years although she's almost 25 and on December 29th when Pluto did for the first time the exact conjunction I received the news that my daughter had almost died due to having tried that extreme diet so that she could feed on light! well, it didn't work and she barely survived, when she made it back to life she told me that she saw beings pulling her back to life telling her that her time to leave this world had not arrived yet and that she had an important mission yet to be fulfilled, after that she changed drastically, she really was reborn and is another person completely (worth mentioning maybe that she's got Neptune in the 1st exactly at the same degree where I have my Moon, conjuncting the Galactic Center). There's more about this Pluto/Moon conjunction but the list would be too long, and there are signs that I read everywhere and every day. Also very significant is that my grandma, from my father's side, and whom I had pretty much as a role model, an example of fortitude, persistence and courage, died in February aged 96 (I thought she'd make it to 100 like my great-grandma), her passing also coincided with the Solar Eclipse of 13th Virgo on March 3rd, and I know that she indeed embodied the very qualities of 13th of Virgo for me according to the Sabian Symbols. So yes, there are losses, but there are gains too as ultimately everything has to be constantly regenerated.
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Hello Victoria Tears where rolling down my cheeks whilst I read your article. I am currently going through a difficult pluto transit(sun opposition pluto) and good lord, I cant express how hard it is. What I am going through...is so horrible that I just want to hide under a table and fall asleep and not wake up... Your article made a lot of sense and I can atleast hope things will get better. Thanks once again. Sumini
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This is the best article I feel that I have read in years. Thank you so much. As you know, pluto is difficult but understanding the greatgrandfather-motherly wisdom behind it is, well, beyond words. I feel like I just might survive this pluto transit conjunct my sun and square my natal pluto.
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Hi, I am still going through the darkness of Pluto and I want to SO appreciate everyone here for sharing their heartfelt difficulties. I was born 12/13/65 - New York,NY - at 7:58 in the morning. I can really relate to YHS's comments about feeling a lack of courage. I feel like I am in this blah space where everything is hopeless. The things I want to create never happen because of endless obstacles which seem to appear often without me even doing anything to create them. I am a purposeful individual. I went to college, got my BA, etc.. I am unique and different because of my own sexual interests but then check my chart out if you like. I am a Saggitarius with Venus in Aquarius in the first house. Duh... I have been through 13 years of endless difficulty mostly with managing money and it is wearing me down. It doesn't matter how much I make. I still have the gas company threatening to turn off my gas because I got so far behind in my payments. I am embarrased to be me. So, my partner no longer wants me to be with her. I keep having problems getting together with people who used to be really close to me. And, I am really beginning to wonder if I really want to spend time with them period. It is simply not easy growing up socially in the South when you are IRISH CATHOLIC from Manhattan and DON'T TAN.
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Thanks for the article. Surprise, surprise, I am too going through a pluto transit. Pluto conjunct sun in the 7th house, and pluto square int he 4th. It's fully on. I am crying sooooo much. I'm agonising about what I've missed out on in my life, all my regrets about what could have been etc etc. I feel like my life is falling apart, not to mention my body, aches & pains, sinus problems, and last yr. up until earlier in the yr. bad nausea. I'm re-evaluating everything, I don't know who I am anymore, or really what I want, nothing seems to be helping, or at least only temporarily, I'm so confused, feel like I'm going mad, so much grief for loosing my support network, no family or friends near by as we've relocated, feeling lonely & isolated, know that I need to meet some new people, but also not feeling in the right space for it. I know I need to make some changes, but I'm finding just dealing with what I'm going through att he moment is enough. I have strated some new activities, but the work situation is a big one for me. I can so relate to needing to do something meaningful & purposeful, but I can't seem to find the courage at the moment, I'm in between careers, but not quite ready for the new one, argggg, it's a very hard place to be in..........but thanks for the article, & for everyone else's comments, it sure does help to know that you're not going mad, and you're not on your own, so thankyou.....ys
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Hi- I just want to say that i am scared to death! I don't know what it means, but I have pluto squaring my moon in the 12th house coming up very soon. I came to this site to try and get a clue as to what this means.I still have no ideal but am even more frightend than befor. Can you please give me a clue as to what this means? I just lost my 6 year old neice who was like my own less than a year ago. I'm still trying to heal from that. I have two chilren of my own. Please tell me this doesn't mean something will happen to them? Thank you so much for your time.Jackie Thomas
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Jackie, I am sorry for the loss of your niece. What Pluto square Moon will mean to you depends on the circumstances of your life, but I suppose the most likely thing would be that you would go through some deep psychological changes. It partly depends what sign your moon is in, and all the other placements in your chart, but on the whole, it could be a positive thing for you if you're willing to do some deep growing. Your ideas about some important things could change. It would be very very unlikely that it would relate to anything happening to your children. Please try not to worry too much about that.
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victoria, Thank you so much! That knot in my stomic just loosend a littel. I am a scorpio with a capricorn moon. I was born october, 24th 1971 at 1:43pm, in monroe, louisiana. So as you can see i'm not a real balanced person anyway.I am having someone do my chart right now, but I don't know how long it will take and it was getting harder and harder to sleep at night worring about that.Thank you so much. You don't know the dark cloud you have lifted from me.I just know that I can handle anything eles but something happening to them. Thank you and God bless you, Jackie
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Hello Victoria I wrote to you a while back , I have Pluto sq sun in my 7th house relationship ...and then lost the link to this site [ I had come across it by accident?!] Thank you so much for such an inspirational piece ..it has given me hope and helped me understand what's happening, although it's still very very difficult to deal with. I've also re experienced childhood trauma, -but thankfully through helpful inner child workshop. I have an 11 and 12 year old and work nearly full time [ have been a lone parent for 7 years ] and a real longing for a realtionship and realise I need to find the confidence [ and loose the wieght , recently diagnosed thryroid disorder ... and make the time to get out there ! Time to release the past , to let go completely. It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Thanks again
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Great blog folks. I'm going through a Pluto transit as well at the moment (have forgotten to ask how long it will last for!) Took great comfort from reading that sometimes Pluto wants you to get into your head that someone's behaviour is not acceptable and they should be told. I've just done that and it's a great feeling. I'm moving temporarily to live in a good astro area for me, and because I am going with the flow of the Pkuto tranist, it is finally getting easier (after many tears though) So trust in the process, it will eventually end. I am very alone at the moment, but am fine with it. Love to you all
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Alison, this isn't exactly the same but when I had Pluto square my natal sun, I too re-lived abuse from my childhood. I remember I was in so much emotional pain at times that I was literally rolling around on the floor gasping for breath. It seemed my body couldn't contain it all. Yet, strangely, just right after the transit ended, I had this out of the blue bolt of good luck and something (unrelated) that I'd been wanting to happen for a very long time happened. I always kind of think there's a connection, that some sort of good luck happens when a Pluto transit ends, even if it doesn't seem related. At least that's what I've noticed with myself and others, that within a year after the transit ends it's like the person has a whole new life. I'm watching this happen with a client who had a Pluto/Moon transit. Her transit ended a few months ago, and you'd have had a hard time convincing her then that anything good was going to happen. Yet today, she's bouncing off the walls with happiness and excitement because there's been a wonderful turnaround in her life. I knew it was going to happen, told her it was going to happen, and yet...sometimes I am surprised by just how dramatically it happens. So yes, Alison, the turnarounds are very real--just not what you'd expect.
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If it makes anyone feel any better, I going through a Pluto opposite Sun transit and it has led me to what feels like the depths of hell. I have reexperienced horrific abuse by my parents dating from childhood, have had to cut ties with them and the rest of my extended family. My boyfriend suddenly stopped calling me after dating for a year - still haven't heard from him and I have literally lost almost all of my friends due to various issues stemming from jealously. I am trying to hold onto the hope that things will get better. If anyone has any uplifting stories about positive changes or turnarounds I would love to hear them so that I can be cheered up a little.
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That's a great article on pluto transits. I'm currently going through the god almighty, one and only transit of pluto crossing the ascendant. All I can say is that for the past year and a little I have been feeling a rotten gut feeling. It's not a physiological thing, but a very obvious psychosomatic state. It isn't unbearable and or debilitating, just an occasional reminder of something rotten, something dying within me. It's a little difficult to pin point exactly where it is manifesting and or heightened though. That's not true, I know exactly where and why it manifests. I'm just too afraid to face the truth and let myself feel what I feel and express it. I fear the consequences. I don't know how to let go.
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PLR, The thing to know about Pluto transits is that they end. Now that you know you are experiencing a Pluto transit, you can know for sure that the feelings you have will not last forever. Furthermore, the deeper you go with a Pluto transit, the more intense your feelings, the greater the feeling of happiness and satisfaction you feel when things do turn around. This seems to be a part of the cycle. People who do not engage fully with their Pluto transits (and you are definitely engaging with yours), do not get as much benefit out of them. In the end (I know this may sound like a cliche), you will be happier and more satisfied precisely because you will be able to feel gratitude and happiness so much more richly for having ridden the wave to the bottom of your psyche. There are so many examples of this in life, from the trivial to the sublime. It's the thing that doesn't work out that leads the way to the thing that does work out. All the questions you have are legitimate, and I'm not going to claim to have all the answers for you. I'll just say that I believe you will experience your grace as a result of the experience you are growing through now. This transit is clearing the way for a gift. We just don't know what that gift is yet. But you will get one. Thanks for sharing your story.
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Thank you Victoria, your sentiments and thoughts have touched me. I will try to hold onto the beliefs and wisdom you have imparted, as them seem to reach out from a vast space I am not near entering right now. To know that there will someday be light, even if I can not see any right now, may sustain me enough to continue to ride the waves. A quitter I am not but this has pulled me so low and into myself that I have resorted to blogging on a website just so I can release the pain. You see, the only person who I had come to trust with all my joys and sorrows, is the very one that is at the center of my grief now. It is with great sincerity that I think you for your kindnesses and the time you have taken to reach out to me. Bless you.
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I am living with a pluto and he just gets wrose with age he is nearly 75 and has prostate cancer. He is a controler "I have to be controled as i cannot control myself"! I am 67. he is violent, never forgets what someone done to him that he did not like no matter how many years ago. I can do nothing right, but he walks on water and has a halo on his head that is bigger than the world itself. He claims to do for others as "christian love" but not for me. And i don't i am going to hell, for not being "nice" to this neighor woman age 36 and a moocher, mooch from anyone and everyone all her life. he has to mow her yard as she don't feel good, She has 17 cats in her house, and stinks to high heaven. I will not allow her in the house any more nor my car. I got used up by her and quit doing for her. So now she has turned her attention to him. He compares me to my best friend, she makes home made noodles and you don't. She is better on the computor than you are. This frien d of mine does not want another man, she has been widowed for 12 years and feels she is still married to her husband. And she has told him this many times. I had total knee replacment in Aug, and it is not right still so i cannot get around like i used to nor want to. I am only on SS and he has a good pension, so i am dependant on him but i am about ready to be undependant on him and move into an low income senior houseing apt. My kids are not close by i have no family close by. He is surrounded by his brother and sisters and cousins and etc. His brother and one sister tell him to get rid of this whore {me} and gold digger {me} yet they reap the benefits of money and whiskey from him. He destroys things mine and his makes him no difference. I have just written a book called "Vodka and Roses" my pen name is /floie Keller yet to be published am tying to get help with that. he is jealous of my book. "YOu can write a book but can't make noodles."! Writing a book was easy as falling off a log for me. what does writing a book have to do with making noodles? That is what the groc store is for buy the blasted things.!!! Millions and millions of women do not make home made noodles or bread.! Thanks for letting me vent steam. jessie
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Pluto has smashed me over the head. A relationship of 3+ years has finally come to an end. When I fell in love with this person (and I do, at this moment, feel a great enduring love still)I thought that the Angels had smiled upon me and gave me a gift I believed would never be granted. Yes, it was amazing, the sharing, the small generous courtesies, a love that touched the core of who we both were. Nothing was held back, we knew more about each other than anyone else and still it made us stronger in our love, no matter the sides that were too dark to show. At least this is what I believed. Now, my world has turned upside down, I have experienced hatred as intense as the love, not knowing what had happened and probably never getting a straight answer. The words of love whispered and promised, things said that should never have been said if they were not coming from the heart with true and honorable intention. I am crushed, literally. I cry for no apparent reason and for all reasons. Memories are everywhere, unescapable. When I run I always run into them and they take me so far down that I don't know if I will ever see light again. I am no child, I am in my 40's and have been through a horrible divorce and came out stronger for it. This time feels as if I am never going to take a deep breath again. I try to focus on my son, my family, my career, forging new friendships but nothing can pull me far enough away from this dibilitating pain. It is as if my spirit and soul have been crushed to dust and left to blow in the wind. Try as I might to gather up the pieces of what remains of myself I find that only a fraction of who I once was is near. There is no pain I have ever endured that has felt like this. I know for my own sake and those who truly love me and see the good in me that I MUST overcome these emotions and find myself once again. I know I am there somewhere, if only I had a glimpse of where and what direction to follow. I can't give up hope of a life that could someday be full of the love that could be shared but I know that it will never be with this person. In the interium I feel hopeless. There is a knawing fear that my only chance for happiness has decided that they perfer profiles on match.com to me. WHY WAS MY LOVE NOT ENOUGH? This is so very hard, what if I never come out whole? How depressing, to see something as this only two days after the New Year. I am fully aware that there is greater pain and suffering in the world, it is just that right now it is hard to concentrate on anything but what I am trying to overcome, forgive me my failings and selfishness.
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Dear PLR It touched me to read about your troubles. I am going through a pluto conjunction to my moon in 5th house, square my 1.st house/5th house ruler conjunction at the same time. Your sentence about crying fits in here, I seem to cry for every reason and for no reason whenever I think too much. I recently met the love of my life (and I realised that that is what he was) after decades of separation. Old feelings have surfaced again and I do not know what to so with them and what to do with my faltering marriage, faltering though lack of emotional contact. Memories and longings for the deep emotional satisfaction I had with my first love have resurfaced, and I cry for fear that I may never experience such a union of souls again, as he is now so far away and involved in a new relationship. My soul longs for him. I cannot believe that pluto wants to cut him away - why not instead let him get into my life properly? At the same time I am scared and bewildered about the depth of these newly rediscovered emotions...it feels like insanity is knocking on my door.
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I have just a small q for Victoria Bazeley: What do you think of my question above - I mean can such a transit bring someone back into your life as well (i.e. stressful aspect but with happy ending..), or will it always be someone/something leaving one´s life and a distressed ending? Thanks for a comment.. BR.
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First of all, Piv I sympathize with you going through a Pluto conjunct Moon transit. Your question is an interesting and potentially complex one. Pluto transits do sometimes bring people back into our lives, as this one seems to have done in a way for you, in that you met this person again after decades of not seeing him. I don't personally know of any instances wherein a Pluto transit itself has reunited separated lovers, though. For me at least, Pluto always seem to be about loss, at least at first. However, I have personally experienced Pluto transits that took people away from me temporarily (and very painfully), but I was reunited with them later. So I would have to say that a Pluto transit itself does not sever a soul connection. Before being reunited, I did have to go through the whole grieving and moving on process; in other words, I had to let go of the idea that I would ever get what I had back. I got something else when I was reunited with the person I loved, but it was at a much higher level than the feelings I had been attached to before. As for happy endings...in a way, I want to tell you that there's always a happy ending because Pluto transits do transform things; they turn them around and radically so. So there is a tremendous amount to be gained from a Pluto transit. On the other hand, I'd be insincere if I didn't say that the turnaround is not necessarily what one had originally hoped for. Pluto transits also seem to leave a sore spot in the psyche. There is a part of your soul that remembers what the experience was like and does not want to repeat it. That's part of the value of Pluto transits; they really are effective at teaching what mistakes not to make again. But there also seems to be a little bit of the heart or the soul that is always sad for the suffering that occurred during the transit itself. So I would have to say I don't see too many cases of an actual bad ending. What I see usually is something bittersweet; a triumph, a gain, a success, a renewal, along with some little ghosts of sadness or regret or even bitterness. You don't get back the time you lost--but you get something else that you didn't realize you were capable of having. It's a very profound process.
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Thankyou so much, Victoria, for taking your time to write this comment for me! It will help me, I am sure, as it gives faith. I can comment on what you say about teaching what mistakes not to make. During this particular experience during this transit, I have not made mistakes (I hope not) and hope not to do so, but I have been asking this person for forgiveness for grave mistakes I made then, decades ago, and I have been forgiven. So at least now there is sympathy and no hatred, albeit not love either, from him. The transit is far from over, but that is where I am now so far.
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